Found these in oil drain magnet???
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Found these in oil drain magnet??? I changed the oil in my 98 TA WS6 today and these were attached to the magnetic oil pan drain plug. These are all magnatized in that they will stick to each other magnetically too. Any idea what these are? I want to know what I need to fix and how serious it is. Thanks to anyone that can help. They are next to a domino to show size, I can measure more specifically if necessary.
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Yep..gotta love un-caged needle bearings. Long as you can get them all out and they havent damaged anything yet youll be ok. I just replaced all mine with Comps trunion upgrade kit. It was like $135 and I ordered the install tool kit from Summit instead of doing it the socket way. NO hammer involved and was a hell of a lot faster. Easy as pie too, a monkey could do it.
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Thanks, suggestions? I will accept your diagnosis. I heard what sounded like a lifter tick for a second that went away, makes sense. I just emailed the head of the GM LS1 design team with the same question. How big a risk to drive it to where the shop is to get it fixed or is this just a time bomb that has no answer? I appreciate your help as I was surprised as the motor only has 38K miles and was running fine save for that tick that went away very quickly. Obviously I don't want to have this become a bigger issue but have to drive it to get to where it can be worked on. Also is this common and is there an upgrade to prevent it from happening to some other or just one of those things?
Thanks Much,
Tom
Thanks Much,
Tom
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Sounds good Yep..gotta love un-caged needle bearings. Long as you can get them all out and they havent damaged anything yet youll be ok. I just replaced all mine with Comps trunion upgrade kit. It was like $135 and I ordered the install tool kit from Summit instead of doing it the socket way. NO hammer involved and was a hell of a lot faster. Easy as pie too, a monkey could do it.
I am putting an HID kit on my motorcycle or I could just not drive the car at all. I do have to get it somewhere it can be worked on though. It runs perfect but I feel like I should not drive it until fixed obviously.
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I am sure it is a bad idea to drive it, I just had to ask the obvious. I really do appreciate the help with the diagnosis and the upgrade kit to prevent it from happening again. I will see if there is a way to count what I have found and if not then not sure how to ensure there are no more of these floating around to cause potential damage.
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complete kit Yep..gotta love un-caged needle bearings. Long as you can get them all out and they havent damaged anything yet youll be ok. I just replaced all mine with Comps trunion upgrade kit. It was like $135 and I ordered the install tool kit from Summit instead of doing it the socket way. NO hammer involved and was a hell of a lot faster. Easy as pie too, a monkey could do it.
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Risky My worry is that more of the bearings will become dislodged. Finding them all and not having them circulate is a secondary problem. It could not have happened at a worse time...of course.
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Per your question about doing them all, the upgrade kit does a full set of rocker arms. It has 32 of the caged bearings. There are quite a few videos online you can find that show you the proceedure.
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Thanks. Ok not too bad price for the parts.... Ok thanks much for everyone's help. I will go get those and get the things fixed for good. I live near Seattle so we are still having some rain but hope to be out on the motorcycle soon. I guess things could have been worse.
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The socket way is easy and very doable, I just liked the idea of doing it with a precision fixture as I dont want to get one cocked. The tool kit is relatively cheap and comes with instructions. Heres the PN from Summit>> SME-906011 and only $39.99. The Comp PN for the trunion kit is 13702-KIT and a LOT of our vendors on here sell them for around $140. Hinson Supercars was runnign a special for $199 installed when you sent them your rockers but I dont know if they still are. Try a search for them.
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Thanks for the tip The socket way is easy and very doable, I just liked the idea of doing it with a precision fixture as I dont want to get one cocked. The tool kit is relatively cheap and comes with instructions. Heres the PN from Summit>> SME-906011 and only $39.99. The Comp PN for the trunion kit is 13702-KIT and a LOT of our vendors on here sell them for around $140. Hinson Supercars was runnign a special for $199 installed when you sent them your rockers but I dont know if they still are. Try a search for them.
I am waiting for a reply from the member of the LS1 design team I know who I scolded for my having to go through this.
Glad so many of you knew what those were so quick. BIG HELP. And the alternatives for the fix too. Makes a rotten event easier to deal with.
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I saw some sets I did see some more complete sets, and having roller tips as well as roller fulcrums etc.. I have not decided if it is going to stay stock as it is now or if I will go with the Procharger and various mods. If I stay stock I would stick with just the upgraded bearings. If not then the money for the roller rockers might make more sense. In either case I will be glad to get the new caged bearings installed and hope all else is good and stays that way.