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Old May 16, 2012 | 08:06 AM
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has anyone notice a change in mpg after head, cam and stall changes in their cars.
i am looking at swapping to fuel injection with my setup and go with a 4l60e with 3000 stall. i am hoping to get to the 20-25 mpg with my setup.
setup is shaved and ported 243s, comp 273xer cam and stock bottom end 6.0.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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More power = more fuel used, There is no free power. That's why injectors must be larger for more power when you reach the limit of the stock injectors. MPG WILL go down when you put out more HP.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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i just got 26 mpg on a 180 mile round trip. that was mostly highway with a little city driving. i am pretty happy with that money
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Old May 16, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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sfc rick what was your mpg before and after upgrades?
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Old May 16, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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trans- looks like your mpg stayed about the same if i am not mistaken. you have a 6 speed.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
More power = more fuel used, There is no free power. That's why injectors must be larger for more power when you reach the limit of the stock injectors. MPG WILL go down when you put out more HP.
At heavy throttle that is correct, but part throttle MPG is determined more by efficiency.


My car in street trim weighs 3800+lbs and has the aero of a brick but gets 19-20 MPG with all 4 windows down driving through the hills with lots of small towns and traffic which make it hard to keep the converter locked. On open flat road it could easily get another mpg or 2.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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i dont think you will get the 25mpg out of a auto closer to 13 around town and maybe 20 highway if it was a 6 speed 25 hwy would be possible
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Old May 16, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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I put a baby cam 222/226 in my m6 C5 over the winter. Overall tank MPG is virtually unchanged, around 22. However on the 40-mile highway trip to work, if I keep it on cruise at 65, I average 31mpg. Each romp on the throttle subtracts 1 to 2 mpg on that same 40 mile trip. The stock cam would yield very similar results.

Assuming its tuned properly, your MPG shouldn't suffer too much.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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My stock LS1 was getting about 26 mpg on the highway , stock 305 HP. I had the top end done and now have over 100 HP more and am still getting the same mpg with a 2800 stall. I drive 75 mph on the highway, if I were to slow down I might get a little better milage?
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Old May 16, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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my h/c/i ls2 with a 4k converter 60e got 18-20 on the highway with 3.55's BUT it would cave the tank at wot......
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Old May 16, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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I'm kinda wondering about MPG with an auto as well. I'll be swapping to a auto this winter & am lookin at a 3200-3600 stall for my current combo & adding 3.73 gears for just a little more seat of the pants.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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My H/C package didnt drop my MPG one bit, and I gained an easy 100hp over stock. As thunderstruck said, its all about efficiency. 11.2:1 CR and a 228/232 cam. I have driven a few 16+hr trips and typically average ~28mpg on the highway. Around town (to work and back) I am still getting ~17mpg... I could easily get more, but whats the point of all this power if your not going to use it!
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Originally Posted by zz4camaro1980
My H/C package didnt drop my MPG one bit, and I gained an easy 100hp over stock. As thunderstruck said, its all about efficiency. 11.2:1 CR and a 228/232 cam. I have driven a few 16+hr trips and typically average ~28mpg on the highway. Around town (to work and back) I am still getting ~17mpg... I could easily get more, but whats the point of all this power if your not going to use it!
Your a 6-speed though, according to your sig anyhow. So your gonna get better MPG anyhow. I think he is more interested in how it'll be effected in a auto with stall.
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Originally Posted by bigchief52780
trans- looks like your mpg stayed about the same if i am not mistaken. you have a 6 speed.
yea i cruise between 70-75mph on the highway in 6th, and the MPG is just about the same, about 1-2 different. before i was getting average 28 on the freeway with bolt-ons and a tune. i do have a 6-speed and i still have the 3.42 gears (for now, till funds dictate a 9") back there. but the advertised operating range of my cam is 1900-6600.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Your changes in MPG will vary with what you do to the car.

A new stall? Highway MPG will stay the same

Donkey cam? Look to lose 1-2 MPG

Switch to higher gears? Lose 2-4 MPG
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Originally Posted by dodson55
i dont think you will get the 25mpg out of a auto closer to 13 around town and maybe 20 highway if it was a 6 speed 25 hwy would be possible
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Old May 16, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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Depends on the setup. A friends z28 with cam and full bolt ons with 3.73s and 26" tire and 3200 stall gets 25mpg with the a/c on average from SE OK to Memphis.

As far as stalled auto effect on highway mileage it will stay roughly the same. Once locked it works like stock but it's also lighter. Around town mileage will suffer some due to the increased revs but it wasn't enough for me to really be amazed by. If you are cruising at a high enough speed with enough engine load to keep it locked up, mileage will stay the same as stock with small possibility of improving due to less rotating mass.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 02:15 AM
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I drove an entire tank of gas around town and got 11 mpg.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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zz4camaro your setup is sort of what i am looking for. what all did you do.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 02:34 PM
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never mind zz4camaro, yours is a m6. ls1121 is the combo i am looking for. what gears are you running?
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