low power with patriot heads?
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Originally Posted by dart451
Hi Jeff
That cobra is going to want a rematch!
Why don't you just go with some electric cutouts and still have the quiet exhaust you want. I would try taking off the cat back and doing a run and see if that is what is eating HP before spending money on a new one.
Later
Jim
That cobra is going to want a rematch!
Why don't you just go with some electric cutouts and still have the quiet exhaust you want. I would try taking off the cat back and doing a run and see if that is what is eating HP before spending money on a new one.
Later
Jim
I've never seen modern cats cost an engine more than 7-8HP..and thats on some high hp blown applications. On most head/cam cars, its more like 5hp.
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I agree, that was great advice. I will have to get a dyno with the cats/catback off and see where I stand.
However, what are some people's thoughts on my original pull at 18:1 a/f for 375rwhp and then droping to 12:9 a/f and being at only 360rwhp? I know that lean is good, power wise, but I was under the impression that 18:1 was SO lean that it would have had the motor craving for fuel to make more power....? Any thoughts? I appreciate all your time folks!
However, what are some people's thoughts on my original pull at 18:1 a/f for 375rwhp and then droping to 12:9 a/f and being at only 360rwhp? I know that lean is good, power wise, but I was under the impression that 18:1 was SO lean that it would have had the motor craving for fuel to make more power....? Any thoughts? I appreciate all your time folks!
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The wire near the starter you guy's forgot to plug in is the crankshaft position sensor most likely...try a crank re-learn with a tech 2 and try the dyno with no exhaust hooked up as mentioned before..should help a good bit...btw what did the plugs look like after the 18:1 run??
Good luck...the numbers arent horrible..but could deffinatly improve with other mod's.
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Thanks 10secondZ! So the crank has to be 're-learned' now? Is there any way without the tech 2 to acheive this? Is this something that could currently be robbing power? When that wire was unplugged the car was not charging and the alternator didn't work...we actually thought it was a bad alternator causing the problem. The 'tuned' runs were done after this problem was remedied (360rwhp), however we never did a crank re-learn.
The plugs were like new after teh 18:1, slightly tan...slightly. There were no speckles or anything. One plug (#7) was cracked on the outside porcelain and has since been replaced. It never seemed to misfire so I don't know if it caused anything or not.
I plan on a new dyno this weekend without catbacks...possibly without cats as well. I will surely post results...ESPECIALLY if i run into issues. The only other obvious mod that i know of that could be holding me back is a ported throttle body...do you agree?
The plugs were like new after teh 18:1, slightly tan...slightly. There were no speckles or anything. One plug (#7) was cracked on the outside porcelain and has since been replaced. It never seemed to misfire so I don't know if it caused anything or not.
I plan on a new dyno this weekend without catbacks...possibly without cats as well. I will surely post results...ESPECIALLY if i run into issues. The only other obvious mod that i know of that could be holding me back is a ported throttle body...do you agree?
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Did the lil wire by the started happen to be the crank position sensor? Your stock catback is NOT holding back 30rwhp. Do you have a midpipe? They are worth a good bit on C5s. Also, check out CorvetteForums.com.. I have some pics of some C5 throttle bodies I have been doing. They look badass and are making some good #s on the dyno.
BTW, wheres the dyno in Peoria?? I have been to the airport several times there on my way to La Harpe for the Fred Gibb show etc etc..... SMALL TOWN
BTW, wheres the dyno in Peoria?? I have been to the airport several times there on my way to La Harpe for the Fred Gibb show etc etc..... SMALL TOWN
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Originally Posted by Cammin BeaSSt
Did the lil wire by the started happen to be the crank position sensor? Your stock catback is NOT holding back 30rwhp. Do you have a midpipe? They are worth a good bit on C5s. Also, check out CorvetteForums.com.. I have some pics of some C5 throttle bodies I have been doing. They look badass and are making some good #s on the dyno.
BTW, wheres the dyno in Peoria?? I have been to the airport several times there on my way to La Harpe for the Fred Gibb show etc etc..... SMALL TOWN
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Originally Posted by 10secondZ
The wire near the starter you guy's forgot to plug in is the crankshaft position sensor most likely...try a crank re-learn with a tech 2 and try the dyno with no exhaust hooked up as mentioned before..should help a good bit...btw what did the plugs look like after the 18:1 run??
Good luck...the numbers arent horrible..but could deffinatly improve with other mod's.
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