**UPDATE 3..have my answer**Blew engine..I think..turns over but won't fire...video
05-30-2012, 01:57 PM
#82
change the gd crank sensor already! if it doesn't fix it, take it back to Autozone.
You're getting fuel.
Rockers are moving.
No spark.
Just replace the crankshaft position sensor and roll on.
I'm gonna **** a lot of people off here, but I think it needs to be said.
Some of these internet mechanics think way too much. Test this.. get a scanner.. no, obdII isn't good enough, your fuel injectors are leaking, blah blah blah.. People, if he's getting no spark, the only LOGICAL thing to do is replace the crankshaft sensor. They fail randomly.
My advice, from a man who's fixed all types of vehicles during his life with a set of craftsman tools and logical reasoning, change the crankshaft sensor, get a new set of plugs, and start the damn thing up and see how she sounds.
You're getting fuel.
Rockers are moving.
No spark.
Just replace the crankshaft position sensor and roll on.
I'm gonna **** a lot of people off here, but I think it needs to be said.
Some of these internet mechanics think way too much. Test this.. get a scanner.. no, obdII isn't good enough, your fuel injectors are leaking, blah blah blah.. People, if he's getting no spark, the only LOGICAL thing to do is replace the crankshaft sensor. They fail randomly.
My advice, from a man who's fixed all types of vehicles during his life with a set of craftsman tools and logical reasoning, change the crankshaft sensor, get a new set of plugs, and start the damn thing up and see how she sounds.
I should be able to go over and do it today.........(edit: oh, and I woke up today with a cold and slight fever....lol)
I'll let you all know.
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05-30-2012, 02:11 PM
#83
LS6427 has tirelessly provided info on topics he is very familiar with. He has repeated his cooling system upgrade/advice/maint advice many times, same with power steering coolers etc. Without being confrontational or snarky.
I hope he receives the same constructive courteous advice now that he needs it.
GL with this issue, I am learning quite a bit here from the advice, there is a lot of knowledge in this forum!
I hope he receives the same constructive courteous advice now that he needs it.
GL with this issue, I am learning quite a bit here from the advice, there is a lot of knowledge in this forum!
05-31-2012, 08:02 AM
#84
Ddnspider- fair enough. Keep in mind that I specifically mentioned his advice on the topics that he is knowledgeable about. I anticipated a response like this after seeing a similar sentiment, but I posted anyway.
I'll just say this; LS6427 asks for help, members see his sig, a few members think that he should know more about his specific problem because of his ride/experience etc. I was a little surprised by that, but I guess I'm ignorant and should know better too because of my low post count/lack of mods.
You are 100% correct by scrutinising advice on the Internet/forums etc. 'Nuff said.
I'll just say this; LS6427 asks for help, members see his sig, a few members think that he should know more about his specific problem because of his ride/experience etc. I was a little surprised by that, but I guess I'm ignorant and should know better too because of my low post count/lack of mods.
You are 100% correct by scrutinising advice on the Internet/forums etc. 'Nuff said.
05-31-2012, 05:23 PM
#85
UPDATE 3....Video.........Internal Part is broken..........
Video is short......put the new Crank Sensor in. It fired like it always has when I just bump the key. BUT...it made an instant loud, CLACK, CLACK and stalled by itself. I did not try again.
I'm guessing broken rod.
There's a picture below of the old Crank Sensor....it has about a 1mm deep groove across it.
So, engine is coming out.......getting rebuilt. SUCKS, its just a bad time. I was about a week away from getting my new (used 2008) Merc E63 AMG.......now I'll have to wait maybe 6-8 months
Oh well........pay to play. I got to play for 10+ years with this great engine that ARE built. Hope my 441ci lasts this long.........
VIDEO:
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Video is short......put the new Crank Sensor in. It fired like it always has when I just bump the key. BUT...it made an instant loud, CLACK, CLACK and stalled by itself. I did not try again.
I'm guessing broken rod.
There's a picture below of the old Crank Sensor....it has about a 1mm deep groove across it.
So, engine is coming out.......getting rebuilt. SUCKS, its just a bad time. I was about a week away from getting my new (used 2008) Merc E63 AMG.......now I'll have to wait maybe 6-8 months
Oh well........pay to play. I got to play for 10+ years with this great engine that ARE built. Hope my 441ci lasts this long.........VIDEO:
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Last edited by LS6427; 05-31-2012 at 05:33 PM.
05-31-2012, 05:32 PM
#86
Ddnspider- fair enough. Keep in mind that I specifically mentioned his advice on the topics that he is knowledgeable about. I anticipated a response like this after seeing a similar sentiment, but I posted anyway.
I'll just say this; LS6427 asks for help, members see his sig, a few members think that he should know more about his specific problem because of his ride/experience etc. I was a little surprised by that, but I guess I'm ignorant and should know better too because of my low post count/lack of mods.
You are 100% correct by scrutinising advice on the Internet/forums etc. 'Nuff said.
I'll just say this; LS6427 asks for help, members see his sig, a few members think that he should know more about his specific problem because of his ride/experience etc. I was a little surprised by that, but I guess I'm ignorant and should know better too because of my low post count/lack of mods.
You are 100% correct by scrutinising advice on the Internet/forums etc. 'Nuff said.
BUT....spoke to my builder today. He said I can be there for every single step of the rebuild....from disassembly, to machining to assembly. He said he will basically teach me to build a 441ci stroker engine from start to finish. Now I'll learn everything thats happening inside these things.........then when I have a problem in the future......I'll know about all these things I've been asking in this thread.
Some things I've always been real interested in is degree'ing cams, installing crank/rod bearings, filing rings to fit, balancing rods and pistons and refurbishing a crank shaft.
It'll be cool to learn it all.........
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05-31-2012, 06:20 PM
#91
Thanks......it'll be a beast. I have to set a power goal now.....610 RWHP through my A4.
We are taking the engine out Saturday.......it'll be getting tore down on Monday or Tuesday.
I'm a pilot....sometimes I have to fly out of town for days or sometimes a week long........so I sure hope I can be there every day......I'm off till next Friday. So I'll see the entire disassembly at least.
My builder has no less than 6 LSx builds going on right now...including a badass 468ci RHS road race engine, and a bunch of various stroker engines........he also hand ports heads and intakes and there's a huge line of those there waiting to get done.
He said he should be able to at least tear it down the day I bring it, or Tuesday.
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We are taking the engine out Saturday.......it'll be getting tore down on Monday or Tuesday.
I'm a pilot....sometimes I have to fly out of town for days or sometimes a week long........so I sure hope I can be there every day......I'm off till next Friday. So I'll see the entire disassembly at least.
My builder has no less than 6 LSx builds going on right now...including a badass 468ci RHS road race engine, and a bunch of various stroker engines........he also hand ports heads and intakes and there's a huge line of those there waiting to get done.
He said he should be able to at least tear it down the day I bring it, or Tuesday.
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05-31-2012, 06:23 PM
#92
Definitely......Lots of pics. I'll take them each step of the disassembly. I'm real curious to see what the normal wear of the engine has been. Since my way use of normal cheap 20w50 oil seems to be frowned upon by so many.
I sure hope I can re-use my Cola crank....I love owning one of those bad boys. If the block is damaged I'm buying this guys 1998 LS1 and giving it to RED for wet sleeving. Then I can do a 454ci 4.185 bore x 4.125 stroke.
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I sure hope I can re-use my Cola crank....I love owning one of those bad boys. If the block is damaged I'm buying this guys 1998 LS1 and giving it to RED for wet sleeving. Then I can do a 454ci 4.185 bore x 4.125 stroke.
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06-01-2012, 01:19 PM
#99
The largest one was the size of the little letter "a" inside the "@" symbol on my keyboard key. Very small. The rest were literally the size of sand or bread crumbs.
I'm dying to see inside this thing.
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06-03-2012, 12:24 AM
#100
Well.....pulled the engine today. Got the sumbitch all the way out in a few hours...........then noticed a crack in the block near the dipstick.
BULLSHIT........
I have a big swing in what I'm gonna do. Gonna have my builder just do a 6.0L aluminum truck block, .030 over bore, 370ci. Stock crank. Forged rods and pistons. 88mm turbo. The friend that helped me pull my engine today has this same set up in his Trans Am and makes 800 RWHP.....he did all the fabbing himself for the entire kit with A/C. He's gonna do mine.
I figure with him doing it all, I'll actually spend less or close to the same as doing a 441ci with a LS7 top end and new forged parts.....and make a ton more power.
Plus, if my Cola crank is un-damaged....I'll be able to sell it.
Oh well.......I'll still get some pics of the damage inside and get some info from my builder of what took it out or what failed. Didn't have to drop it off today....I'll get it there next week sometime or me and my friend will just tear it down.
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BULLSHIT........
I have a big swing in what I'm gonna do. Gonna have my builder just do a 6.0L aluminum truck block, .030 over bore, 370ci. Stock crank. Forged rods and pistons. 88mm turbo. The friend that helped me pull my engine today has this same set up in his Trans Am and makes 800 RWHP.....he did all the fabbing himself for the entire kit with A/C. He's gonna do mine.
I figure with him doing it all, I'll actually spend less or close to the same as doing a 441ci with a LS7 top end and new forged parts.....and make a ton more power.
Plus, if my Cola crank is un-damaged....I'll be able to sell it.
Oh well.......I'll still get some pics of the damage inside and get some info from my builder of what took it out or what failed. Didn't have to drop it off today....I'll get it there next week sometime or me and my friend will just tear it down.
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