Trying to ID LS1 blocks
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Trying to ID LS1 blocks Recently looking at the LS1 that was in my 98 Z28 it was not the original engine for the car. It was a Jasper reman ,if any one knows what Jasper typically does in their reman LS1 I would like to know.The block is not a 1998, What year and casting # did they revise and improve the rear oiling core and strength of the block? I have read mid 99 and another said 2000 . I see at least 3 different casting # for LS1 and 2 for LS6. I did a search and have not found much detailed info on what block casting # the revised . Hope this makes sense.
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The overall strength of the block did not change from year to year, however, some will argue that the LS6 blocks are actually weaker than the LS1 counterparts due to the windows being cast into the main webbing. however, I beleive that any change in strength between the LS6 and LS1 blocks is neglagiable.
As far as the revised oiling passage...IMO, a simple casting number is still a crap shoot simply because it is a machining process, not a casting process.
example, I work at the plant that makes hard tops for Jeep Wranglers. we make very subtle changes to them every now and again such as wiring harness upgrades, different fasteners or seals in the J-rail...etc, but every part carries the same P/N.
As far as the revised oiling passage...IMO, a simple casting number is still a crap shoot simply because it is a machining process, not a casting process.
example, I work at the plant that makes hard tops for Jeep Wranglers. we make very subtle changes to them every now and again such as wiring harness upgrades, different fasteners or seals in the J-rail...etc, but every part carries the same P/N.
I never really understood why company's do this and don't change or alter the part number in anyway. For a quick example when Kent Moore makes change to their tool they follow the original P/N with: -a, -b, ect... why don't other company's do this? It would make like a little easier for those of us in the restoration world if the part number was altered when the part was altered.
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Yes, I had called them before, just to get info on typically what they use as cores for their reman , they were no help at all. I thought they may only use later blocks ,due to thicker liner. From what they told me , they do not have a preferred casting that they look for as far as block or heads. They will use any casting that they can machine into spec. Some time this week I will pull my LS1 out and get the numbers off the sticker and call them back, thanks for the tip. Hope they still have record of it.
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Well found the the info I was looking for the early 97-98 0592 was the weakest casting. Later 1998 casting 9846 had improved liner design. And the 2000 casting 9378 had a cored rear cover oil passage for improved casting.
> Here's a good bit of info to know: The '97 to mid-'99 LS1 block (bottom) should not be used for high-performance applications.
Read more: http://www.hotrod.com/howto/113_0504...#ixzz23G7DFtTr
> Here's a good bit of info to know: The '97 to mid-'99 LS1 block (bottom) should not be used for high-performance applications.
Read more: http://www.hotrod.com/howto/113_0504...#ixzz23G7DFtTr
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Don't believe everything you see in magazines. Many many 97-99 blocks have been used in extremely powerful applications. The blocks themselves are just as strong, they just have thinner sleeves in them making them basically useless if the cylinder walls have scoring or wear upon disassembley.
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Don't believe everything you see in magazines. Many many 97-99 blocks have been used in extremely powerful applications. The blocks themselves are just as strong, they just have thinner sleeves in them making them basically useless if the cylinder walls have scoring or wear upon disassembley.
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Well it turns its a 9378 , which I was happy to see. I was hoping it might be a 1168 like yours but not that lucky . But short of that its the next best thing. Been to busy lately to do much else . But this motor has 317 heads or at least on one side . My guess on why Jasper used these is thats what was available and it appears they decked the block considerable amount. So thats why they went 317 to get closer to factory spec CR. They probably milled the heads too. Some day I will get around to tearing it down , to really see what Ive got.
From what I have seen from jasper, they assemble engines with whatever is laying around. To them, an ls head is an ls head. Same with old small blocks. I had a jasper reman 350 a while back that had a 1.94 valve head on one side and a 1.72 valve head on the other. That thing ran like a champ...
it's cause I haven't been paid in 3 weeks and my office is in the basement. 