awesome thank you both. lots of help.

i was able to get a hold of patrick g he said the 7.425 pushrods will work great with my set up. so that should be solved. i will also be going with stock gaskets as suggested above. i do not want to fly cut. this set up might see a 125 shot in the future.

 

alright so i have done some reading, and i think i want to mill these heads abit. it seems to help the cam gain abit more. it has been done without needing to fly cut.

from what i can dig up ive read 64cc with .005 mill and stock .040 gasket that will crush to about 30 something. 34-37 i think.

TRak cam 235/232 595" 644" 112 lsa

hand ported 799s. new stock valves.

edit. ok i read maybe a 64cc and .005 mill with .040 gaskets..

hows that sound anyone?

 

Dude, your goin bout this all wrong... First off, you need to measure.. Otherwise you could destroy some stuff, and be worse off than you are now.. Lop off a few thousandths on the head, slap Em on check Piston to valve clearance.. Measure pr length.. And let er eat.. These are precision pieces. Can't slap it together blindly, and hope all is gonna go well.. If you can't do it, take it to someone who will..

 

How is it.done blindly when numerous.people have done the same setup or very similiar. If multiple people did what i just stated above than why would the measurements be off on my car? Did i miss something? Do all ls1s take different measurements than others with same setup?

 

These are just stock 799 heads same as ls6 heads. So i dont see whye measuring would change the.countless peoples experience.amd.input.that has done this before me. Defenatly.mot.the first.with a trak cam an ls6 heads

 

Well your now milling the heads, .005 or .030 etc, your gasket thickness might vary from what the guy last week did, y guess? Take the extra hour and measure.. That's the only reasonable reliable advice I could give u..

 

The measurements i mentioned above are from another member with same setup only heads were way more ported. And milled .005 with the .040 cometic gasket. Would that not be precise enough ? He got his setup.from jason at texas speed and patrick g. Jason told.him that gasket with that mill on 64 cc to.boost compression specifically for the trak cam. I really appreciate the help and dont wanna sound like a dick. Just going off what i read. I thought if casting, mill, gasket, cam, and motor were the same all measurements shoukd be aswell correct?

 

Hey buddy, it's not a case of being a dick , or a nice guy.. If u wanna take this **** you read on here as gospel, go right ahead.. Like I said how hard would it be to measure? That's all I'm saying.. I don't give out advice or say x =y it don't work that way majority of stuff is fine, due to the fact the lifter will soak up some +\- a few thousandths... But I'd still do it myself, so there is no doubt..

 

Every engine is different. Period. Yes, your measurments could be off by a few thousandths from the guy next door that has the same exact setup. Nothing is exact from part to part, that's why you have tolerances, not specifics when it comes to engine parts.

Those few thousandths differences between your engine and your neighbors could be The difference between him driving his to the car show down the street, and you towing yours to a shop to have it fixed.

 

you guys are right; no argument there. i just dont have the time frame to do all that. when i do my build i need to start friday night and be done by monday morning. ive had friends by heads and cam packages and did not measure. they just purchased what was considered a setup. my heads are pretty much the same as ls6 heads.

so if i buy a heads and cam package from texas speed lets just say. i will need to wait till i have most of it together than measure for push rods and what kind of gasket to use due to heads being milled? i was hoping there is at least little green area where anything in those ranges is fine. with all the feedback of thousands of members, engineers, tuners, motor builders.

my task is to just figure out how to make this work with the time frame i have. i am not going to pay someone for something i can buld myself. they just rape you with charges. so far the measurements i posted above are what i found that will work. from two respectable people. not just the normal guy in the garage next door.

 

Hope you have time set aside later on when your valve train sounds like popcorn...you complain about time constraints now, but what are you going to do if it's not right and you have to take it all apart? That extra hour or two spent now could save you days in The future.

 

im not complaining. im stating my case. my car is a 98 so i am updating the heads. i do not think any measurements now would help.

im sorry but i cannot figure out how it would only take me two hours extra hours now to figure it out?

in order to measure. i would need to rip car apart. install new cam, heads; torque them down then measure for push rod length? than would have to order and wait about two-three days?


or what if i get the checker and have two different size push rods. the two that will both most likely be between. than i measure once its all together and choose accordingly.

 

You do understand that the machine shop could accidentally take off too much or too little from the head and then you're stuck with a push rod that is the wrong length?

You do also understand that when you mill a head or add deck thickness to the head the push rod length changes right?

 

You posted the question on a public forum and you did not like the truthful responce that you received. People who know what they are talking about are telling you the correct way to do it. If you want to roll the dice and hope it works out alright all I can say is good luck. Because that is what your going to need a lot of in this case.

 

I wish we could all hear eachother talk. You all act like i am mad and not liking what you are telling me. You three are incorrect. Im just trying to find a way to make thia work. Have u guys even read all the post in this thread? Or have you even read how much i am trying to mill? Bailry anything? Yes i know now that pushrod length would be different with a mill that is why i posted if grabbing more than one size and using the correct one and returning the other. Why would i.pay someone of they cant the mill correct? That means everyone who gets work done has the potential of slappong the piston.because people cut off.more than they should? Im probably just gunna go with what pushrods are guaranteed and leave heads alone. I dont have the time frame or extra car.at this point in time to leave my care down foe a week. I thought i could build off everyones experiences.and put.my setup together and ve fine. But you all say im an idiot for attempting so ill leave them as they are.

 

I don't think I called you an idiot.

If it sounded that way I apologize.

If you would like give me a call at the shop and I'll help you the best I can.

 

Wow, nobody said your a idiot, but fact remains you can trust that they milled x and you asked for y. But they actually gave u z.. . There is only one "correct" way to do it, sure other paths have been taken, but you'll never see me tell u this is the exact size pushrods use these.. Unless you lost or bent a stock one for a stock motor.. Anytime you crack open a motor , it might as well be a clean sheet of paper.. Double check everything.. It's a expensive lesson, for you to learn if you muff it all up.. And you'll be the first one to Martin@tick said, illusionalta said this etc.. We're just trying to help you out as best we could, to the best of our knowledge.. To get the best results..

 

I greatly appreciate it fellas. Lets do this


What would you guys do being in my shoes.

Same heads and cam sitting at home.

Trak cam 232/235 595 644 112

Stock 799 new steel valves. Heads new aswell Hand ported.

 

I'd run them bitches,..

 

Make sure to check piston to valve clearances, and you have the appropriate springs and their installed/shimmed at the correct heights!