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Old 10-17-2012, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MMMichael
I'd like to keep my power down low with a broad powerband. It is a street car and I know I CAN daily drive really anything.. I don't want to flycut either. That's why I felt the F14 or the TSP cam would be the best choice but if there's quite a few of you that have problems with Comp then I'd rather not use them because this is what get's me to work and stuff so it needs to be decently reliable as well. hmm... Decisions decisions...Thanks for all the info!
IMO, F12 with 112lsa would be my choice. It will have a slightly lower powerband and only 6* overlap compared to the F14s 9*overlap.
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Compare the quantity of cams sold by each company...I would imagine Comp surpasses most companies in sales. Just because they've had a few defects does not pertain to the ENTIRETY of the company. Let's talk about the MILLIONS of successful units Comp has produced. If companies like Texas Speed thought it was a liability to carry Comp, they wouldn't do it. I don't think you can go wrong with the FM14, but don't steer away from other possibilities..
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I don't think I could have said this a better way myself. Comp does grind our camshafts, and we are definitely happy with them.

I stand behind my comments. They are terrible. If I find 10 local ones bad that says something just on the last year. Stay away from Comp and if you insist on getting one-have it checked. They are by far the worst cam grinder. Period
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
IMO, F12 with 112lsa would be my choice. It will have a slightly lower powerband and only 6* overlap compared to the F14s 9*overlap.
Not so sure I follow... Would a higher, say 113/114 LSA drop my powerband lower? or higher in the RPM's?

What's the difference in overlap degree's? What makes this crucial?

Sorry for the newb questions, I'm still learning.
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I ran a F14 HL 114lsa for a couple years in my dd 01 m6 ss. It made 434rwhp/396rwtq SAE on Futrals dyno. On a 125dry shot it made 565rwhp/585rwtq. I ran 4.30s and 3.90s with it. I was also running some patriot 243 stage 2 heads.

Had good street manners and the power came on quick.
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The slightly lower duration shifts the powerband slightly lower along with where the trq peaks at, and it also slightly increase the DCR which improves lowend power. Going with a wider 113 or 114 LSA will give a wider/flatter power band with less peak power. The lower overlap might make it easier to tune under 2k.
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Originally Posted by red fury
I ran a F14 HL 114lsa for a couple years in my dd 01 m6 ss. It made 434rwhp/396rwtq SAE on Futrals dyno. On a 125dry shot it made 565rwhp/585rwtq. I ran 4.30s and 3.90s with it. I was also running some patriot 243 stage 2 heads.

Had good street manners and the power came on quick.
The HL version seems huge to me, but if it DD well then I wouldn't have a problem with it. How well did it run as far as a driver? Some peoples opinions on "street manners" are different. That's really decent power putout and sounds to be what I'm aiming for. Got any videos by chance? If not I'll just YouTube it..

Thanks for the info!
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
The slightly lower duration shifts the powerband slightly lower along with where the trq peaks at, and it also slightly increase the DCR which improves lowend power. Going with a wider 113 or 114 LSA will give a wider/flatter power band with less peak power. The lower overlap might make it easier to tune under 2k.
Sooo... what would be the difference between the above mentioned High Lift F14 and the normal F14 if they have the same duration? As far as powerband is concerned, I understand it is higher lift. Thanks!
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I have had my Futral FM13 regular lift cam since 2004 and has been a GREAT CAM and had a tones of fun and runs with it without a minutes trouble to date. Ran it with stock GM 243 up till a few months ago on the heads and moved up to the Trick Flow 215 heads, no times or dyno numbers yet with the Trick Flows!
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Sounds like this cam is getting my vote. Does anyone know where I can get a decent cam swap kit? FMS has the upgrade kit with dual springs, PR, blah blah.. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with an timing chain, oil pump, and all that. I'm going to get LS2 trays and LS7 lifters as well; Not to turn this into a cam swap thread but is there anything else I need? I'm looking into the Comp trunion upgrade as well. Anything?

Thanks for the info guys, you all helped make up my mind!
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Originally Posted by MMMichael
Sooo... what would be the difference between the above mentioned High Lift F14 and the normal F14 if they have the same duration? As far as powerband is concerned, I understand it is higher lift. Thanks!
With really good heads you'll make a little bit more power, otherwise just go with the regular lift. As far as the power band it shouldn't really change.
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
With really good heads you'll make a little bit more power, otherwise just go with the regular lift. As far as the power band it shouldn't really change.
Gotcha.. Sounds good to me!
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I installed my f14 cam about a month ago and love pulls hard to the top I only have 241 with exhaust ported only and milled 20 thousands with Qtp with true duals
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Originally Posted by bigantws6
I installed my f14 cam about a month ago and love pulls hard to the top I only have 241 with exhaust ported only and milled 20 thousands with Qtp with true duals
With the heads milled any PTV clearance issues? Do you know what kind of power you are making or have an estimate?

Did you do the install yourself? What else did you install when installing this cam?

Thanks for the info!
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I had no PTv problem I haven't dyno it yet its on a street tune and I just did cam swap ...since I did the rebuilt I had the springs already in
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Originally Posted by Evans752
I have had my Futral FM13 regular lift cam since 2004 and has been a GREAT CAM and had a tones of fun and runs with it without a minutes trouble to date. Ran it with stock GM 243 up till a few months ago on the heads and moved up to the Trick Flow 215 heads, no times or dyno numbers yet with the Trick Flows!
wow those are some impressive Track #'s in your sig. Those results were with stock 243s?
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Originally Posted by adamantium
wow those are some impressive Track #'s in your sig. Those results were with stock 243s?
YES it was and the one time I got to make the trip to Englishtown NJ for one of the Shootouts back in 2004.



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