233/239
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I had this cam on a stock cube ls1 with a 3800 stall and a 112 LSA. This cam has a really nice lope to it but the power was a little high in the RPM range for my liking. I was running 3.23 gears so maybe a set of 3.73s can remedy that. IMO i would go with the Torquer V3
3600 would be just fine. im not a fan of huge stalls anyway, especially on the street. it gets old fast when your shifts constantly hover at 3000rpms with the 3800+ stalls. then again all stalls arent created equal so..
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We recommend at least a 3200+ converter for that camshaft. In my opinion I think that the 3600 would work even better with this camshaft.
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I don't see it being a problem, a lot of people run larger cams in their DD .
IMO, run it with a 3600 Stall TC an enjoy it!
IMO, run it with a 3600 Stall TC an enjoy it!
Last edited by 99Bluz28; Nov 29, 2012 at 02:12 AM.
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I have this cam in my car, and love it. Mine is on 114 lsa and in a 98 ls1 with stock intake. Only difference is my car is a 6 speed. cam pulls amazing up top but is a little sluggish down low. Ive outrun a couple of bigger cammed cars.
You would be surprised how much better power under the curve is over peak power...I've seen equal cars run faster on the street and track with smaller cams. One instance was an ms4 car and a tv2 car. Both were cam only with equal supporting mods. The tv2 car ran within .1 of the ms4 car and spanked it on the street.
I had the cam as well in a 5.3l 6 speed f body with 4.10s. I agree it felt a little sluggish below 2700 rpm, but i was never going to be in a race where im below those rpms. Unfortunately i didnt get any track times.
IMO this cam will have it's tq peak higher in the powerband, and is more suited if you're spraying NOS on a regular basis, when compared to the Trq V2 or 3. So if you want your tq to peak lower in the powerband, and/or don't plan on spraying NOS then get the Trq V2 or 3 instead of the 233/239 cam.
Without 4.11 gears (or something similar) Its a ******* turd on the streets. Not a daily driver cam in an M6 without gears. Dont get me wront the thing will haul *** from 3,000rpm to whenever your rev limiter kicks in but like 99BluZ above me said it will pull higher than your stock components will turn. The 233/239 sounds badass by the way. If you put it in an M6 make sure you swap gears or else a prius will beat you off the line and probably beat you to 35 mph as well. From experience running this cam in an M6. This cam is sick when launched over 4,000rpm with slicks. good times
Last edited by 3rdCoastPowerSports; Nov 29, 2012 at 06:50 PM.
With a stalled auto car and a good tune i wouldn't hesitate to run this cam on the street, I've spent a lot of time behind the wheel of a 00 LS1 with both the stock heads, then a while later ported LS6 heads. This car in an m6 and it just happened to have 3.42's still and a mail order tune. This car had the 112 LSA version of the cam and had a pretty damn lumpy idle (800 rpm) especially with the cutout open.
With stock heads and supporting mods it put down 380 at the wheels up from a baseline of 309 at the wheels. The ported ls6's made a huge difference however it hasn't been dynoed since.
It really is a high end cam though, if your looking for grunt around town I would look else where. This cam didn't really start pouring on the coals until after 3500 and pulled like a freight train from 4000 to the limiter at 6700rpm stock rod bolt beware!! But with a high stall and the right rear gears Im sure it would wake up quite a bit.
I'll also note that this car whooped up on a 12 mustang 5.0 M6 pretty hard all the way through.
one disclaimer though I dont care how much you guys love Pac and comp beehive springs this cam broke a pac 1518 exhaust spring in less than 4000 miles despite covering all the bases at assembly (checking installed height, pushrod length, heat cycle break-in, etc) This car also had stock ratio rockers. Maybe it was a fluke but it ended up bending that valve, luckily it was at low rpm so the piston didn't self destruct and saved the heads.
The car has a set of more expensive dual springs but it is damn good insurance.
With stock heads and supporting mods it put down 380 at the wheels up from a baseline of 309 at the wheels. The ported ls6's made a huge difference however it hasn't been dynoed since.
It really is a high end cam though, if your looking for grunt around town I would look else where. This cam didn't really start pouring on the coals until after 3500 and pulled like a freight train from 4000 to the limiter at 6700rpm stock rod bolt beware!! But with a high stall and the right rear gears Im sure it would wake up quite a bit.
I'll also note that this car whooped up on a 12 mustang 5.0 M6 pretty hard all the way through.
one disclaimer though I dont care how much you guys love Pac and comp beehive springs this cam broke a pac 1518 exhaust spring in less than 4000 miles despite covering all the bases at assembly (checking installed height, pushrod length, heat cycle break-in, etc) This car also had stock ratio rockers. Maybe it was a fluke but it ended up bending that valve, luckily it was at low rpm so the piston didn't self destruct and saved the heads.
The car has a set of more expensive dual springs but it is damn good insurance.
Last edited by 1994Z28Lt1; Nov 29, 2012 at 07:34 PM.