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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Why do people waste so much time on this..........its no different than 40 years ago.
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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Its a simple discussion on a tech message board, not a big deal.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RockinWs6
...cam on base tighten rocker nut until THERE IS NO PLAY IN THE PR

Once you hit 0 lash COUNT the amount of turns it takes to tighten the nut.

Please explain to me what you don't understand?
I don't understand why you keep referring to the the rocker bolt as a nut.

Please explain to me what you don't understand about the difference between a bolt and a nut?
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 04:53 PM
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You know exactly what I meant..........
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by crainholio
I don't understand why you keep referring to the the rocker bolt as a nut.

Please explain to me what you don't understand about the difference between a bolt and a nut?
wtf does it even matter? nut,, bolt same damn thing...
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by railmule
wtf does it even matter? nut,, bolt same damn thing...
Pure mechanical genius on display, from the guy who tried to fix oil burning with a tune:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...e-exhaust.html

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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 10:38 AM
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When counting turns past zero lash, remember you're only supposed to torque the bolt to 22 foot pounds.

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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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This is the method I followed...

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awesome info showvette, thanks
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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I hope it helps. It took alot of confusion out of things for me.
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Old Sep 23, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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That was Shane at Thunder Racing's way to do it. And yes it works.

And to the damn fool who is saying .10 is acceptable pushrod preload, shoot yourself because that's ridiculous.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SPRAYED 01
You get the lifter on the base circle of the cam(so valve is closed) you start by putting the pushrod in at stock length. Get to zero lash explained above. Then for Every turn after zero lash is .047 preload. You want .70 to .090. If you can only go a half turn lets say before it torques down you need a longer pr. So you adjusrt it longer and see where your at


this measurement is incorrect, and your desired preload is incorrect with an aftermarket cam


first off...aftermarket cams want to see .020~.060 preload...and yes, it does make a difference, the extra ramp rate will want less preload to make it quieter, and it will make slightly more power with less preload, and have more valve control.

secondly...the math for preload needs to account for rocker ratio as well
so ...Thread pitch of 1.25 = .0492126
but that assumes 1:1 rocker....
with a 1.7:1 rocker (stock LS1), it becomes 0.0492126 + (0.0492126/1.7) = .078161 per one turn of rocker bolts......

if you dont believe me, Use a Dial indicator, and you will see one turn is .078
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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I'm at .076" preload with my COMP XER 281 with 7.4" pushrods. COMP told me that was on the high side, but it shouldn't affect performance. Their "ideal" spec for my cam is .060" preload. I asked if I should change to a shorter pushrod and they told me not to worry about it.

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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This is why I ask questions and make. Threads. You can have so many people thinking one thing, then some one comes a long with new info and makes everything else incorrect.

Little to late, all ready installed 7.430 pr because with the 7.4 i was getting about one full turn. So I guess im at like .100 preload, awesome.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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I'm at 1 5/8 turn, using the method listed above. 1.63 turns X .047" = .0766"

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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If sound engineer is correct you're at like .128
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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The method I posted above is widely used and it's accurate. A pool among all instructions tell you that 1 1/4 and 1 3/4 until you get to 22 foot pounds seems to be the common consensus.

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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Frank, I hope your right because that's the method I used. I wish I had just simply checked with a dial indicator but I didn't.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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There is a ton of misinformation in this thread, and it's on both ends of the spectrum. If you aren't going to buy a $20 checker, please just follow Shane's instructions that were posted above. No less than 1 turn of the bolt should be considered acceptable with gm lifters. If possible I like 1 1/4 to 1 1/2, it will be quiet and stable. A little more is acceptable and is generally not a problem.
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the pr checker isnt the question now,its how much preload is in one full turn with 1.7 ratio rockers? Any one have their valve covers off and a dial indicator?
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