Got a T/A with some issues... opinions?
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Teching In
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From: spokane Washington
First off... a 1 minute burnout?... there is no reason to ever do that unless you are trying to waste tires and draw the attention of the cops
Telling us what cars you beat racing doesnt help us know what has been done to the car....in order to diagnose a problem, we have to know mechanical details..Mods, Tuning, DTC Codes(actual #'s of the codes, not just "its an o2 code...there are multiple of them and each means a different thing.
henceforth what this smilie was designed for......
it sounds like the car has mods.....and its unknown if the car is tuned or has a stock file in the pcm....
so first thing you should do is go to a tuner, have them read the file, and have them look at it and tell you if its stock, or if it has been modified.
this can tell you a whole wealth of info...
Big words for a 2nd post on the forum.....
the worthless person appears to be calling the kettle black with their lack of knowledge of how to express themselves in a way that is not derogatory.
Old Geezer may not have goven a great response, or the one you were looking for...but no need to say it was a worthless post....
but he is right...you need to post in the PCM and Tuning section with Data logs and Tune file .....
though with a user name like old geezer... I would expect a little sass in a reply..LOL
the bank 2 o2 code is nothing to worry about...it is the code for a catalyst that isnt working, or isnt there....or its a badrear o2 sensor
that rear o2 sensor doesnt do anything to the fueling...all it does is monitor if the catalyst is doing its job properly....and tells you when to replace the cat's when they go bad... thats it...emissions related only
once again, for somebody who only has a few posts on here, you are going around calling people an *******??
I'm telling you now...you need to change your attitude
he made a suggestion... you can choose to ignore it...
he suggested going to a tuner......I suggest the same thing...go see a tuner and have them look at the file in the pcm...............
suddenly the advice about going to a tuner is valid???? after calling people ******** and tellling them their posts are worthless....
thats what I took from his posts
really...so suddenly after a reputable shop suggest going to a tuner, LilJayV10's post is now valid? after you already called him an *******?
unfortunately, you may have been pissing in the wind with new plugs...
if the tune is off(lets say its rich), they will only help for a short time before they foul out just like what was already in there...
the car idling at 600.....with a cam...is too low of an idle rpm....probably needs to be up around 800 or 850 for the cam at the low point...not saying its a must do....but it will help keep the plugs cleaner at idle if it has a few more rpm and it will have less chance of throwing misfire codes because its easier to hold a steady rpm with a cam at higher rpms(600 rpm is a lot of load for an engine to keep stead at with a cam.....)
and realistically.... the dealer possibly bought the car in an auction from a repo....and somebody may have flashed a stock tune to a modded car...in which case......if the cam was a smaller one (less than a 224/224), it might drive reasonably well with a stock tune...hell I know guys that have thrown in a hotcam, and done nothing to the tune and its just fine...not ideal...but its runs and drives with stock street manners.
so like I already said.... go find a tuner....find out what has been done in the pcm, and have a tuner decide if it needs some adjustment in the tune, or if its a mechanical issue causing the problems you are seeing
now...... I wasnt trying to be an ******* with this post...but I was purposely being a little rude to show you that some of your responses were uncalled for and that you can choose to respond differently.....I know I would appreciate it as would others...
p.s.......
please stop doing 1 minute burnouts unless you are at a burnout competition...
you are making the rest of us responsible Hot rod owners look bad.
Telling us what cars you beat racing doesnt help us know what has been done to the car....in order to diagnose a problem, we have to know mechanical details..Mods, Tuning, DTC Codes(actual #'s of the codes, not just "its an o2 code...there are multiple of them and each means a different thing.
henceforth what this smilie was designed for......
it sounds like the car has mods.....and its unknown if the car is tuned or has a stock file in the pcm....
so first thing you should do is go to a tuner, have them read the file, and have them look at it and tell you if its stock, or if it has been modified.
this can tell you a whole wealth of info...
Big words for a 2nd post on the forum.....
the worthless person appears to be calling the kettle black with their lack of knowledge of how to express themselves in a way that is not derogatory.
Old Geezer may not have goven a great response, or the one you were looking for...but no need to say it was a worthless post....
but he is right...you need to post in the PCM and Tuning section with Data logs and Tune file .....
though with a user name like old geezer... I would expect a little sass in a reply..LOL
the bank 2 o2 code is nothing to worry about...it is the code for a catalyst that isnt working, or isnt there....or its a badrear o2 sensor
that rear o2 sensor doesnt do anything to the fueling...all it does is monitor if the catalyst is doing its job properly....and tells you when to replace the cat's when they go bad... thats it...emissions related only
once again, for somebody who only has a few posts on here, you are going around calling people an *******??
I'm telling you now...you need to change your attitude
he made a suggestion... you can choose to ignore it...
he suggested going to a tuner......I suggest the same thing...go see a tuner and have them look at the file in the pcm...............
suddenly the advice about going to a tuner is valid???? after calling people ******** and tellling them their posts are worthless....
thats what I took from his posts
really...so suddenly after a reputable shop suggest going to a tuner, LilJayV10's post is now valid? after you already called him an *******?
unfortunately, you may have been pissing in the wind with new plugs...
if the tune is off(lets say its rich), they will only help for a short time before they foul out just like what was already in there...
the car idling at 600.....with a cam...is too low of an idle rpm....probably needs to be up around 800 or 850 for the cam at the low point...not saying its a must do....but it will help keep the plugs cleaner at idle if it has a few more rpm and it will have less chance of throwing misfire codes because its easier to hold a steady rpm with a cam at higher rpms(600 rpm is a lot of load for an engine to keep stead at with a cam.....)
and realistically.... the dealer possibly bought the car in an auction from a repo....and somebody may have flashed a stock tune to a modded car...in which case......if the cam was a smaller one (less than a 224/224), it might drive reasonably well with a stock tune...hell I know guys that have thrown in a hotcam, and done nothing to the tune and its just fine...not ideal...but its runs and drives with stock street manners.
so like I already said.... go find a tuner....find out what has been done in the pcm, and have a tuner decide if it needs some adjustment in the tune, or if its a mechanical issue causing the problems you are seeing
now...... I wasnt trying to be an ******* with this post...but I was purposely being a little rude to show you that some of your responses were uncalled for and that you can choose to respond differently.....I know I would appreciate it as would others...
p.s.......
please stop doing 1 minute burnouts unless you are at a burnout competition...
you are making the rest of us responsible Hot rod owners look bad.
PS the worst part of this for me is that my laptop was recently stolen and I am forced to do this on my phone, which made your post incredibly aggravating to reply to as my screen is only 4.3 inches and is all touch...
Last edited by LS1BADBIRD; Oct 15, 2013 at 09:09 PM.
OK for some clarification it wasn't LITERALLY an ENTIRE minute long but it was big. My attitude will remain as it is. I do not feel I have been disrespectful at all. I never directly said old geezer you are an ******* or to v10. I referred to the pissy tone in which he responded. Your opinion on my burnout is not required here, only the answer to the question asked. I Dont need a breakdown of what a burnout does or why it is illegal. The car had bald tires and I Dont care if I get a ticket. I'd rather feel whether or not the drive train is sloppy and if it will hold for a reasonable amount of time for the type of driving the vehicle will be used for. Look at my first post I mention TUNING. I have been speaking of tuning this entire thread. I was only curious to hear from fellow lsx owners, never did I ponder I would have to defend myself so damn much just to talk motors and hear some opinions ON THE ISSUES MENTIONED not the burnout mentioned. I was never derogatory or direct in response to the rudeness and blatant disrespect given here. I DO appreciate your advice about the cars issues but I Dont appreciate the holier than thou image that you portray here. Dont take it personal that I will go to dealership and do a "real test drive". I see nothing wrong with KNOWING the car is tight. Especially when this lot was shady and cleared all the codes and tried to cover up a couple loose door panel components. Why did I go to a shady dealership? Because there were only 2 fourth gen trans ams at dealer in the cow town I live in and I being an f body enthusiast since my first iroc very at 16 was dead set on a ls1 trans am. Can't we all just get along and talk some cars without the attitudes? But anyways thanks for the info I am going to get a tune.
you believe what you want...and do what you want to do....doesnt bother me a bit....
I'm Just sitting here laughing at your response...but whatever...LOL
personally, I think all Car dealerships are shady... its not about the customer, its about a quick turn around to make a few bucks...
and you cant feel if the drive train is sloppy from a burnout...you have to actually go drive it...
all a burnout tells you is that the brakes will hold the front tires while the back ones spin, and that it makes enough power toy spin the tires while you are mashing the brakes.
theres no real load on any parts to tell if the drivetrain is in good condition or not from a burnout.
Thread Starter
Teching In
Joined: Sep 2013
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From: spokane Washington
you believe what you want...and do what you want to do....doesnt bother me a bit....
I'm Just sitting here laughing at your response...but whatever...LOL
personally, I think all Car dealerships are shady... its not about the customer, its about a quick turn around to make a few bucks...
and you cant feel if the drive train is sloppy from a burnout...you have to actually go drive it...
all a burnout tells you is that the brakes will hold the front tires while the back ones spin, and that it makes enough power toy spin the tires while you are mashing the brakes.
theres no real load on any parts to tell if the drivetrain is in good condition or not from a burnout.
I'm Just sitting here laughing at your response...but whatever...LOL
personally, I think all Car dealerships are shady... its not about the customer, its about a quick turn around to make a few bucks...
and you cant feel if the drive train is sloppy from a burnout...you have to actually go drive it...
all a burnout tells you is that the brakes will hold the front tires while the back ones spin, and that it makes enough power toy spin the tires while you are mashing the brakes.
theres no real load on any parts to tell if the drivetrain is in good condition or not from a burnout.
