Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Tips needed for Comp Check and leak down

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-05-2004, 07:03 AM
  #1  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
MYBLKSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Sewell, NJ
Posts: 638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Tips needed for Comp Check and leak down

Before I make any major repairs to my motor I want to make sure the bottom end is in good shape. What are the proper procedures to perform these tests?
Should the Car be warm? Which should I do first? If I have good compression do I have to do the Leak down.
Old 05-05-2004, 09:37 AM
  #2  
TECH Resident
 
KGSloan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Tulsa, Ok
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i would just do the leakdown. it will tell you a lot more.

to do the leakdown test:
1.warm up car
2.pull all spark plugs
3.loosen the rockers (gotta have the valves shut)
4.hook up leakdown guage to air compressor
5.screw air hose into a cylinder
6.connect guage to air hose in motor (make sure you have the motor locked up and the e-brake on)
7.check PSI on both guages and find the percentage leakage
8.move on to the next cylinder

if one of the cylinders is losing a lot of pressure, you'll be able to hear where it is escaping. into the intake is a bad seal with the intake valve (maybe bent), into the exhaust is a bad exhaust valve seal (maybe bent), or into the crankcase is a bad ring or piston.

good luck to you
Old 05-05-2004, 12:09 PM
  #3  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
MYBLKSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Sewell, NJ
Posts: 638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

this might be a stupid question but how do you work on a hot car? Won't you get different readings as the car cools. It is going to take a while to get the car up in the air, remove valve cover, Ign, starter, and plugs. How will my motor hold the heat that long?
Old 05-05-2004, 12:24 PM
  #4  
TECH Resident
 
KGSloan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Tulsa, Ok
Posts: 791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

it won't be "hot" but it will still be warm. i just did a leakdown on my motor this past weekend and it took about 2 hours. the motor was still warm when i finished and the readings i got were the the same from the time i started to the time i finished (i redid the first cylinder just for that reason, i wanted to see if it showed anything different after the 2 hours of cooling). i think the main idea is to not be working on a cold engine.
Old 05-05-2004, 02:15 PM
  #5  
TECH Senior Member
 
PREDATOR-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: BFE
Posts: 14,620
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

You will need 100 psi.
Old 05-05-2004, 02:33 PM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
 
DenzSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 1,248
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I did a leakdown on a 427 this weekend that ended up with an 18% leak on a warm motor. We checked 3 cylinders and then said the hell with it, the engine is junk. No use putting more effort into it.

8 out of 8 plugs had a dark band on the ceramic, 6 out of 8 had burnt through the ceramic in the same band. Nothing like an engine that burns 3 quarts of oil/1000 miles.
Old 05-05-2004, 02:52 PM
  #7  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
MYBLKSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Sewell, NJ
Posts: 638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

thanks for the replys what's the maxium % leak down? my motor has about 72,000 miles on it. My heads are fairly new but who knows what shape their in I got them from JPR. So I might have any number of problems.
Old 05-05-2004, 03:05 PM
  #8  
TECH Fanatic
 
DenzSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 1,248
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Look for about 8%. A well built engine should hit 5%, a good engine will hit 2-3%.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:06 PM.