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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 06:40 AM
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Anyone running these yet? Ive been drooling over them for a couple weeks now

http://www.racingheadservice.com/rhs...r-ls1-ls2html/
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Those valves are enormous for 3.9" bore. While I love LS7 heads, they give up midrange vs cathedral port on 427 combos (but make a lot more HP). On a 346 or 383 it'd be interesting to see...
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Those valves are enormous for 3.9" bore. While I love LS7 heads, they give up midrange vs cathedral port on 427 combos (but make a lot more HP). On a 346 or 383 it'd be interesting to see...
This.
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 09:02 AM
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I was thinking more for a turbo setup for myself. For an all out 346 drag setup though...TSP should get a set and see if "the 346 record holder" will go faster.
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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I wonder if you couldn't redo the valves and seats for a 2.04 / 1.6 valves? Just an idea.
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jenson
I was thinking more for a turbo setup for myself. For an all out 346 drag setup though...TSP should get a set and see if "the 346 record holder" will go faster.
TSP would just design an LS7 runner PRC head......as Jake stated though the
intake valves would need to be a tad smaller in order to not be shrouded in
a 3.9 bore. Just adding those diameters now is 3.865"...leaving only .033"
stock bore or at most .040" with a 3.905". Figuring .015-.020 between the
valves leaves very little room on the chamber sides. For a forced induction
application though they would be pretty insane.
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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266cc intake ports on a 347 would also be very large.
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
I wonder if you couldn't redo the valves and seats for a 2.04 / 1.6 valves? Just an idea.
I thought recently that someone posted a link to a company putting 2.08 IN
valves in GM LS3 castings to make them small bore compatible. In that case
you already have a large volume runner and a bowl originally designed for
the 2.165" sized valve. Not exactly ideal.
What would be really cool with these RHS heads is if they took the P-port version and kept it as small as possible (cross sectional area) and perhaps a
volume of 240-250 cc range. Even 2.055/1.6 or 2.08/1.57 combo of valves
when combined with that LS7 runner shape would definitely move some air.
Still got that stroker combo on your mind DR ???
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
I thought recently that someone posted a link to a company putting 2.08 IN valves in GM LS3 castings to make them small bore compatible. In that case you already have a large volume runner and a bowl originally designed for the 2.165" sized valve. Not exactly ideal. What would be really cool with these RHS heads is if they took the P-port version and kept it as small as possible (cross sectional area) and perhaps a volume of 240-250 cc range. Even 2.055/1.6 or 2.08/1.57 combo of valves when combined with that LS7 runner shape would definitely move some air. Still got that stroker combo on your mind DR ???
Lol. That was me.

I sold that crank when I picked up the Vette. The Mast small bore LS3's have the 2.08/1.57 combo. I believe it's a 240cc intake runner.

I've always thought about what if someone bought the ballistic speed ls3's and welded the runner up some, making it smaller for a bit more velocity, and using a 2.04/1.6 valve combo.

At that point they'd be the same price as Mast's, but with a hopeful more bit of velocity. I believe someone has welded on the ballistic speeds here lately...
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I don't know why AI doesn't offer a ported LS3 based on their highly successful port program. They could just weld up the LS3 chamber and run a much smaller valve 2.055/1.57 combo with the LS3 port work they do and have a beast head for the smaller bores. 62cc LS3 head with much better PtV clearance...
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Yes but the LS7 intake kills the LS3, and are usually cheaper. I hadnt done the math yet, thanks A.R., that is really shrouded.
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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That has to be a typo on the valve size. Those valve sizes together are almost the size of a stock LS1 bore.
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According to the 2014 new products brochure they have 2.10 intake valves and are also available in a P-port version.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/qr98u8.../CPG5-2014.pdf

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Mmmmm, ^that looks a little better. I had asked my contact at comp about them last week but he hadnt even heard anything on them yet.
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Very interesting. The plot thickens.
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The 2.10" valve would work well for a 4" bore... not sure on the 3.9. But a 402/408 with these would make some power.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
The 2.10" valve would work well for a 4" bore... not sure on the 3.9. But a 402/408 with these would make some power.
Not so well on a stock LS2?
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