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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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For the past week shes been idling rough and surging a bit more while sitting still in drive and even in neutral some times. A couple nights ago, I was in a high rpm, high g force situation, and I'm thinking the top end got starved of oil. After I slowed down and started driving again, above 2k rpm I could hear a knocking. Got out and listened, its coming from the top end, it gets faster and louder with rpm. She still drove perfectly fine for the most part. Later in the night as I was trying to limp her home, she died on me coming to a stop for a red light. Started her up and took her to the on ramp to pull over and got towed home. The battery died after 45 minutes of waiting for the tow, once i get it charged im going to pull codes to see whats up. I figured as long as I didnt hurt the bottom end I might as well do a cam swap. What do y'all think might be the problem? Bent pushrod? Collapsed spring?
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 01:22 PM
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Well if it's definitely coming from the top and not the bottom that's usually a better scenario lol. Does it knock at idle as well?
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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If it shut down I doubt the damage is limited to topend.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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No knock at idle, at least not audible. What kind of bottom end damage do you think there might be?
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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And btw it's not a horribly loud, violent knock, but it is there.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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pull the valve covers and inspect your rockers and valvetrain.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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One of your rockers may have backed off; possibly on the exhaust side.
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I plan on inspecting everything tomorrow morning, I'm not too mechanically inclined but I'll report what I see with pictures to get better opinions.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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You'll be able to tell if it's something to do with the top end after pulling the valve covers. Good luck.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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You might want to drain the oil into something clean and look for metal in the oil and on the drain plug.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Yea it needed an oil change so that was going to happen. Is the plug magnetic?

Appreciate all the feedback guys.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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Also on another note, money is tight, I figure if anything needs to be swapped I might as well do a cam swap while I was in there, but it might be a little while before I get the necessary supporting mods (intake/exhaust) to go along with it. I'm still on stock manifolds, but I already have a torque converter. Would it be Alright to swap the cam on stock manifolds? I know it will probably be a dog but might as well do it now you know.
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I picked up good used pacesetters for 200 shipped. the speed engineering headers have proven to be acceptable fit and the price is super reasonable (like under 360 for headers AND Y)...

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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 03:48 AM
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Yea I was already eying the speed engineering race headers, already have eBay xpipe, just need mufflers and miscellaneous parts.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 04:27 AM
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If your like me you bounced the lifters off the cam lobes and cracked the lifter bores in the block.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 05:13 AM
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hopefully it has nothing with the bottom end. Also i agree it sounds like only top end issues to me. Best of luck, Keep us updated with pictures and perhaps we can assist you further.
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Pictures will be on the way shortly, appreciate it
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Ok almost done with the drivers side valve cover, but there's a pipe way on the back of it that comes out on top, a little over an inch in diameter. What is this pipe and can I just take it off?
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