Gregg79ss

Hi guys, is there much difference in idle lopieness between the 112 and 114 lsa? I would like the 112, but my friend has a slightly used tv2 with a 114lsa he no longer needs I could buy. I just don't want it to sound still kinda stock when ideling, and wish I bought one with the 112 lsa instead. I know I can get his cam for decent price, but debating if I should buy one with the 112 lsa instead. I have listened on youtube the 114 lsa's, some sound aggressive, and some sound not so much, so idk.




02 ss 6spd, longtubes, ory, 3.90 gears, tuned by frost mail order tune, stock heads.

garygnu

sound is some what determined by tune and exhaust system .with a m6 I would prefer a 112lsa ,if you can get a used cam for a good price .measure the lobes for any unusual wear .

redtan

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A torquer V2 even with 114 LSA will not come even close to sounding like stock at idle.

Not only that, but there are tuning tricks you can do to make a cam sound a lot nastier at idle than before and vice versa.

I can make the baby cam in my 6.0 sound absolutely EVIL or I can have it sound almost stock and would require a knowledgeable gearhead to realize there's an aftermarket cam in there.

Gregg79ss

Ok, thanks guys for the input, I appreciate it. That is a good point, even with the 114 lsa, its got to be more noticeable compared to the stock camshaft that's in it now, plus tuning will help too. Guess I will go with it. It does check out fine still.

Stang-Slayer

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I have a Tqr v2 114lsa. Definitely not anything remotely stock sounding. By all means it doesn't sound like a megadeath cam but it still sounds pretty aggressive in my opinion. I'll see if I can post a video for you tomorrow, if I don't PM me and remind me.

I'm running mine with stock heads and intake, pacesetter longtubes, ORY, and Texas Rumbler exhaust.

rhino200099

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the 112 will give you more power though. ive been playng around with lsa on my desk top dyno program and it usually gets around 25hp more than 114.

Stang-Slayer

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You really think so? With a tiny little ls1 intake, small pace setter headers and full exhaust I was pulling 370 RWP through a 3800 stalled auto. I did the numbers and I'm pretty sure I will be at 390 with a m6. I don't imagine a Tv2 getting much better than that without a better intake or other bolt ons

redbird555

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a desk top dyno is about the most inaccurate thing to estimate power. a 2 degree lsa difference is 5-7 hp at best. you wont feel it driving around at all what you will feel is where the powerband comes in but that can be altered with advance in the cam

Raxus GTO

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Seeing that a cam is a lot of work and honestly not that expensive, I would just purchase the 112 and have no regrets.

HCI2000SS

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OP, another thing to remember is that the 112 LSA will bring in the power sooner than the 114, giving you better low/mid range with still the same top end. For the extra few bucks i'd seriously just get the cam that you really want

nascarnate326

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I would go with the 112. Otherwise you will wonder "what if" in the back of your mind.

madmike9396

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111 sounds bad ***

madmike9396

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here is my brothers on a 111 lsa Jett hot long tubes into a LM1

redtan

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Whut? First of all LSA difference does not give or take away power...it just moves the curve. So while you may notice a power deficiency at a certain point in the curve between the two cams with different LSA, it will most certainly be made up later or earlier in the curve.

Second of all, 25hp is a huge difference. You sure you didn't compare the TV2 114 vs. a megadeath by mistake?

Gregg79ss

Thanks guys, definatley got a decision to make, I would like my powerband a little lower to come in at, maybe I should pay the extra money and buy a new cam with the 112, I know he would give me a good deal on his slightly used 114 tsv2 cam though. The stock cam is what like 115 or 116ish? the 114 should sound better than stock. hate to got thru the install and not be happy with the idle, there isn't much 114 cams to listen to on youtube I noticed.

GMC5.3

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Op I'm in the same boat, purchased a new f13 on a 114 lsa for cheap, and I'm wondering about the idle. I was set on keeping it, then i read this damn thread, now you have me wondering again.

Stang-Slayer

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Here are videos of my Tv2 114lsa with Pacesetters and Texas Rumbler Exhaust


114 LSA TV2 - YouTube


114 LSA TV2 - YouTube

To me it honestly doesn't sound entirely too different. Btw, how did you embed like that?

GMC5.3

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Thanks for putting those videos up, I'm hoping it will sound good thru a cutout

JakeFusion

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114 would be better with ported heads milled down for more compression. That would outrun a 112 on stock heads all day and drive better.

The valve events between the two isn't much different. Maybe 200 RPM peak difference. You have a later intake valve closing point with the 114 that would love more compression. Actually the cam is big enough that it'll run better with 11:1 in either configuration.

99wssixm6

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This is good info and something to think about, if you are planning on getting heads in the future consider the cam spec now and if you will have to buy a new one.

I bought a used cam, and loved it. One thing about reading too much is that you start to get engrossed with what if's. What if there wasnt a 112 version, you would think the 114 sounds bad *** and be all for it. I say get the 114 if it fits your build requirements and spend the extra money on GOOD valve springs....such as the Brian Tooley daul spring kit.