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Old May 14, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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Will there be a significant difference in valvetrain noise between a cam that has .581 lift and one that has .561 lift? Given all else (duration and LSA) are all the same. I know what a .581 lift cam sounds like.

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Would there be a diff. in the valvetrain noise between MTI's C2 224/224 .581/.581 on a 114 LSA
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3 or 4 local guys used the comp 216 220 532 525 114 cam which is a mild slow *** ramp cam with 918 springs on stock heads they had the biggest sewing machines ive heard....i ventured out and put a 224 224 581 581 112+2 in XER (Xtreme energy fast ramp cam)......my valve train was 10 Times quieter than theirs and i was using 918s as well.....ive since added heads with 987 dual springs and a FMS F13 cam and the valvetrain is louder yet still quieter than a lot of other cars ive heard....i think all cars are different, unless youre gonna spray or got an automatic get the C2 cam on a 112, youll like it lopes just nice and driveability kicks ***
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Old May 14, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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I already have a cam this was something that came up in a discussion with a friend who has a C2 cam.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Its not really peak lift that determines valvetrain noise...its mainly due to ramp rate...the valve size also makes a difference as do tolerances in the valvetrain...i.e. lifter preload.
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Originally Posted by Kurtomac
3 or 4 local guys used the comp 216 220 532 525 114 cam which is a mild slow *** ramp cam with 918 springs on stock heads they had the biggest sewing machines ive heard....i ventured out and put a 224 224 581 581 112+2 in XER (Xtreme energy fast ramp cam)......my valve train was 10 Times quieter than theirs and i was using 918s as well.....
Wow that seems *** backwards to everything I've ever seen.

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ive since added heads with 987 dual springs and a FMS F13 cam and the valvetrain is louder yet still quieter than a lot of other cars ive heard....i think all cars are different, unless youre gonna spray or got an automatic get the C2 cam on a 112, youll like it lopes just nice and driveability kicks ***
Also how are the 987's holding up to that cam? I know you have them working on the very edge of what they are rated. Got any Dyno's you can post?
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Originally Posted by 94form2000z
Wow that seems *** backwards to everything I've ever seen.



Also how are the 987's holding up to that cam? I know you have them working on the very edge of what they are rated. Got any Dyno's you can post?

yea that is assbackwards...my 987s have bout 8000 miles on them and are holding up fine....heres a graph within a 1000 miles ago ran them to 6800 on the dyno
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Originally Posted by Kurtomac
yea that is assbackwards...my 987s have bout 8000 miles on them and are holding up fine....heres a graph within a 1000 miles ago ran them to 6800 on the dyno[/IMG]
yeah I've got about 8k on mine with a 588 lift cam. No issues whatsoever here either. Although I've thought of going a little bigger on my setup and didn't want to really change springs. Thanks for the info. Any other mods on yours? I don't see your sig. I'm assuming your car is a m6.
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Yes M6 with a 12 bolt on 18's, pretty much all boltons TEA stage 2 5.3s LTs ORP cutout Stock LS6 intake
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Originally Posted by Kurtomac
Yes M6 with a 12 bolt on 18's, pretty much all boltons TEA stage 2 5.3s LTs ORP cutout Stock LS6 intake

Sweet man. I might have to step up a bit. Thanx for the info.
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