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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:35 AM
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I installed an essentially stock LS3 (90mm throttle body, comp cams 269LRRHR13 cam, and 1-3/4 SLP LT headers) in my 2000 Camaro (auto trans, 3000 stall not locked during the run, with 12 bolt rear end 3.55 gear), tuned the car and now I have some questions for people who have this combination. It appears to be low on power to me but I want your opinions on the power and possible causes for the low power readings. The car put down 403 RWHP at 6100 and 370 is RWTQ at 4500 RPM. (I was expecting to see 430 RWHP based on similar cars with this engine combination) The tune is good, the intake manifold KPA during the run stayed at 99 KPA so no intake restriction, no knock retard and WOT timing was in the 28 degree range. I am suspecting the exhaust is too restrictive but I want another opinion. The 1-3/4 LT headers connect to a 3” y-pipe but the transition from the y-pipe to the 3” single exhaust drops down to 2-3/4 inches and then back to 3” with a flowmaster 3” muffler at the rear.

Any opinion on the power, possible exhaust restriction, or any other ideas?

FYI I locked the convertor on one run just to see what the difference was and it showed 421 RWHP.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:38 AM
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Seems about right.. Dynojet or mustang?
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Converter needs to be locked at all the time if you want accurate numbers. Youd probably see a nice increase replacing that flowmaster with a different muffler. Thats your choke point.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mavn
Seems about right.. Dynojet or mustang?
It was a mustang dyno but my experience with it is that it reads similar to a dynojet.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 10:23 AM
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Converter needs to be locked at all the time if you want accurate numbers. Youd probably see a nice increase replacing that flowmaster with a different muffler. Thats your choke point.
I don't like to lock the converter all the time since it may cause it to fail, I just lock it at the end to see what the power loss is, and what the true engine power curve looks like.

I will look into the exhaust restriction of the flowmaster.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 11:00 AM
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To get the most out of the engine I'd say your whole exhaust needs to be replaced.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bjankuski
It was a mustang dyno but my experience with it is that it reads similar to a dynojet.
All dynos vary depending on how theyre set up. A good avg according to alot of operators a used to be 7% lower for a mustang
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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I think the header are your weak point because I have an ls3 5th gen and no one runs the 1 3/4 header most of use run 2" but I myself have 1 7/8 because tsp was out of 2" when I bought mine.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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I think you should take it to the track and see what it runs. Sounds like your "Dyno tune" is spot on.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by got milk??
I think you should take it to the track and see what it runs. Sounds like your "Dyno tune" is spot on.
I will, I just hate leaving power on the table and the exhaust has me wondering.

My goal was to run high to mid 11's if I hit my goal I may leave it for a while.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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405 or 421 Horsepower should easily put you in the 11's as long as you are not spinning.
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That Y-pipe at 2.75/3" is completely terrible. You could benefit from a 1.875 header but your current ones aren't killing you. I'd run custom 3" mandrel bends from the headers to at the minimum a 3.5" and preferably a 4" single. If funds allow search merge collectors an get one that goes dual 3" with a merge point pinch of 3.5" and then opens up to 4". Then run the single 4 at least to the rear axle before knocking it down to 3.5" for up/over clearance. Then a free flowing Magnaflow/Dynomax/or Hooker Aero chamber (cheapest straight through) would easily be worth another 30 or so flywheel and at least 20 rear wheel. The 425 ish unlocked will put you well into the mid elevens at near 120 mph...assuming good hook.
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
That Y-pipe at 2.75/3" is completely terrible. You could benefit from a 1.875 header but your current ones arn't killing you. I'd run custom 3" mandrel bends from the headers to at the minimum a 3.5" and preferably a 4" single. If funds allow search merge collectors an get one that goes dual 3" with a merge point pinch of 3.5" and then opens up to 4". Then run the single 4 at least to the rear axle before knocking it down to 3.5" for up/over clearance. Then a free flowing Magnaflow/Dynomax/or Hooker Aero chamber (cheapest straight through) would easily be worth another 30 or so flywheel and at least 20 rear wheel. The 425 ish unlocked will put you well into the mid elevens at near 120 mph...assuming good hook.
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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I think with sticky tires and a cutout you will run a 11.4 or better. Stalled A4 through a 12 bolt on a mustang dyno is a recipe for disappointing numbers. But do not worry because what you have is an *** kicker setup street strip wise.
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auto with 12 bolt...those numbers are good.
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