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Old May 16, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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i finished removing my c1 hammer cam for the g5x2 cam w/comp 921's,mac headers for kook's,bauer ported t-body and bg ramair mod. for the cam install i went to home depot and bought two wooden dowel rods 5/16 and they worked great($4.00 )the x2 cam sounds a hell of a lot different then the hammer cam it idles with no problems after a second and i can NOT wait to hit the strip. i almost forgot i have a new t.n.t 150 wet kit too looks like me and the 10's will be friends this year.(I HOPE) mike c.
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Old May 16, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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what are you referring to with the 2 wooden dowel rods? I'm in the dark here. Congrats on the install.
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Old May 16, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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The wooden dowels slide in the front to hold the lifters up, so you don't have to pull the heads.
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Old May 16, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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thats right bro. see...some people are using the jpr tool from thunder racing,the tool to hold up the lifters is $80.00. the pen mags would cost $32.00 to $50.00 depending on which ones you buy. i went to home depot and bought two wooden dowel sticks 5/16 and i cut them 6in longer then the new cam. they cost $4.00. i saved alot of money and it worked great. the dowels slid in nice,i may of been able to go one size bigger.
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Old May 16, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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Congrats on the new setup
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Old May 16, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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ok were do the dowels slide in too?
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Old May 17, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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i guess hes saying they slide in along side the old cam before you take it out to hold the lifters up? Am I right here guys ? Then you slide the cam out leave them in place and slide the new one in.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000Z28M6
i guess hes saying they slide in along side the old cam before you take it out to hold the lifters up? Am I right here guys ? Then you slide the cam out leave them in place and slide the new one in.
Yes, you put them in the two holes on each side of the cam.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 01_SuperSlow
Yes, you put them in the two holes on each side of the cam.
After having removed the cam gear, there is 2 wholes on each side of the cam. Sliding a 5/16 rod in there hold the lifters up so they don't fall once the cam is removed. This feature makes cam swap relatively easy and doesn't require intake or head removal (Unless you are doing H/C, then no need to bother.)
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Old May 17, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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I am right in assuming that you did a cam swap and left in the stock lifters?
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Old May 17, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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the only problem i have w/ what your telling people about the wooden rods is - How do you know these held the lifters up? i've done 15+ cam swaps w/out a tool like that and i havent had a lifter fall yet. so i ask, what makes you think the lifters stayed in place due to the rods? did you push down on one w/ a pushrod or something to see if it would move?
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Old May 17, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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I think what matters here is the insurance you get from not risking it. And who cares really,! as long as it keeps you from any extra labor work.
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Old May 18, 2004 | 01:49 AM
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I'm wondering what is the time for a cam swap with dowels?
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Old May 18, 2004 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 01_SuperSlow
Yes, you put them in the two holes on each side of the cam.
Do you rotate the cam over several times first, then install the rods, or do you just put the rods in as soon as you pull the cam gear off?
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Old May 18, 2004 | 03:40 AM
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congrats on the new cam
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Old May 18, 2004 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by toxic99
Do you rotate the cam over several times first, then install the rods, or do you just put the rods in as soon as you pull the cam gear off?
I do that rotation after the rockers/prods have been removed so the lifters will travel upward and normally they stick there (Nothing is pushing them down again.)
That makes the cam path clear for cam removal.

And BTW, I usually wrap the 5/16 rods with medical wrap tape which adds a little thickness and makes the rods surface no so slippery so a lifter can't "slip by" in case the rod isn't wide enough. Some poeple wrap them with velcro.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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thanks guys. i did NO rotation of the cam when the old one came out. i was not going to push on the lifters to see if the rods worked.i used the rods for the piece of mind,all went well thats all i care about. ow...and i don't have stock lifters,well...i don't even have the stock block in my car.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mike c.
thanks guys. i did NO rotation of the cam when the old one came out. i was not going to push on the lifters to see if the rods worked.i used the rods for the piece of mind,all went well thats all i care about. ow...and i don't have stock lifters,well...i don't even have the stock block in my car.
I am fixin' to use them. I've heard they work good.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Hey Mike C, nice cam upgrade, especially for that juice! You're gonna have some wicked times.
I had the C1 also. Gotta love the way these bigger cams pull much harder up top.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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blackz-the rods seemed to work,i had no problems,goodluck on your swap.southflss-thanks. i'm hoping for a big jump in et and man i hope easy 10's will come on the juce
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