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Old 06-16-2014, 04:18 PM
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Default Texas Speed 228R or Comp Cam ***** Thumpr Cam

I know I know, another Cam thread. I've done my digging and am just going to put it out there for feedback. I'm trying to decide if I should go with the Texas Speed 228R with 112 or do the Comp Cam ***** Thumpr with 109. Also has anyone ran a 3200 stall with these cams? I've read a lot of 228R cams ran with 3600 stall. I'm concerned of drives on the highway with that high of a stall.

My car is a 69 Camaro with a 2002 LS1 from a trans am. So it has the LS6 intake, stock tb, headers and 12 bolt 3:55 gears. Its not a daily driver but does go on the expressway for car shows and cruise nights. I'm leaning toward the Texas Speed 228R and maybe going with a 111LSA for a more choppy sound.
Any feedback on the Cams or Torque Converters would be appreciated.
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id go torqer v2 on a 111 lsa with a 3600-4000 Yank Stall converter
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Don't know the complete specs on that thumper cam, but I hear nothing but great things about that 228 cam...especially when running stock heads
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Don't know the complete specs on that thumper cam, but I hear nothing but great things about that 228 cam...especially when running stock heads
I will be running stock heads.
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The stall speed won't be an issue on the highway as the converter will be locked in 4th gear anyway, so the 3600 is the best choice for you.
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Exeodus thanks for the stall info
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what transmission do you have? did you swap in the 4l60e or adapt the engine to a th350 or th400 or something?

if you get a lock up style converter the clutch locks on the highway and no matter what size stall it is it will cruise the same rpms as a stock converter

there are infinite better cams than the Comp Thumper cams which are just a gimick to sound cool, they can run decent but a cam not just designed to make noise will perform better
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
what transmission do you have? did you swap in the 4l60e or adapt the engine to a th350 or th400 or something? if you get a lock up style converter the clutch locks on the highway and no matter what size stall it is it will cruise the same rpms as a stock converter there are infinite better cams than the Comp Thumper cams which are just a gimick to sound cool, they can run decent but a cam not just designed to make noise will perform better
I have a 4l60e auto trans
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Those Comp cams aren't designed to make power. They are designed to sound like you have power.

Any cam can sound like that if you lower the idle enough.

I'd go with something around a 226/234 113 or so for the stock heads with the 3200 stall and step up to a 230/238 112 or similar for the 3600+ stall. I'd do a wider split with the stock heads. The wider split helps with the intake/exhaust efficiency, increases overlap (power), and carries power longer after peak due to the later exhaust valve closing.
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Take a look at the Tick Performance "SNS" torqueMAX Stage 2 (226/234 110+3) with the milder LXL lobes.
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...1-ls6-engines/
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Thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by Exeodus
The stall speed won't be an issue on the highway as the converter will be locked in 4th gear anyway, so the 3600 is the best choice for you.
He never said what trans he had. Remember, 1st gen camaros didn't come with lock up style transmissions. Reading, assuming, then giving advice gives enormous potential to looking foolish.
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Originally Posted by Project Cortez
I have a 4l60e auto trans
Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Those Comp cams aren't designed to make power. They are designed to sound like you have power.
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step up to a 230/238 112 or similar for the 3600+ stall.
This is the same basic combo as mine just different LSA on the cam and I have 799 heads (slightly higher compression and better flow). It is an excellent street combo in my case. If the original poster isn't concerned with track times it wouldn't hurt to back off the cam size just a little.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
This is the same basic combo as mine just different LSA on the cam and I have 799 heads (slightly higher compression and better flow). It is an excellent street combo in my case. If the original poster isn't concerned with track times it wouldn't hurt to back off the cam size just a little.
As of right now I have no intentions of going to the track but if given the opportunity to do so down the road I wouldn't pass it up. My main goals are a little more hp and to have a nice lope to my idle to give an old school sound to the 69 Camaro. The Camaro looks totally stock until you pop the hood and blow people away when they see a LS1 under the hood.
I think I will go with the Texas Speed 228R and a 3600 stall. Is there anyone I should ask for over at Texas Speed?
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Take a look at the Tick Performance "SNS" torqueMAX Stage 2 (226/234 110+3) with the milder LXL lobes.
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...1-ls6-engines/
Yeap, good suggestion!

As for TC, Yank SS3600 will be nice for cruising and some racing.
If you want more racing abilities, Yank SS 4000 will not disappoint you.
PS: Just keep in mind when choosing the TC that higher stalls with loose STR would be a pain to drive if you live in a hilly, mountain region. But if most of your driving is on relatively flat surface, those suggested above will be awesome.

Look at my sig and setup, I DD a SS3600

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I used the daily drive mine with the SS3600 as well. Here is a short clip I made recently showing how it behaves pulling away from a stoplight and accelerating to 50mph. This was done at a speed that put me out a little bit ahead of the normal traffic surrounding me.

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That looks like an extremely streetable combo.

Like those gauges too.
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I like it. I tuned it all myself and I am a very much a beginner there. It took me some effort to get the idle correct on my automatic, a lot of trial and error and I'm sure an expert could still clean it up a bit.

On my roommates t56 car the same cam went in and idles perfect with the most minor adjustments. It took me maybe 3 flashes to get his perfect with no surge or anything.

The gauges are the Dakota Digital VHX analog gauges. They are one of the best investments I've made to the car by far.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
I like it. I tuned it all myself and I am a very much a beginner there. It took me some effort to get the idle correct on my automatic, a lot of trial and error and I'm sure an expert could still clean it up a bit. On my roommates t56 car the same cam went in and idles perfect with the most minor adjustments. It took me maybe 3 flashes to get his perfect with no surge or anything. The gauges are the Dakota Digital VHX analog gauges. They are one of the best investments I've made to the car by far.
That's pretty good you were able to tune it. Tuning a car is WAY above me. Right now I was thinking of doing the Texas Speed mail in tune. Since I will be using there cam etc... Unless I find a good tuner down by me that actually knows what they are doing.
My gauges appear to be 1969 Camaro gauges but behind the "original face" are auto meter gauges.

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I'd recommend Geoff Skinner @ EPS. You can send in your ECM to him and he can tune the hell out of it.


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