cam for mostly stock a4
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cam for mostly stock a4 I want to do 5.3 heads which are easily found used where i am, gonna find a different rear end with better gearing, a ls6 intake, and already have LT, ORY, lm1 catback, and slp lid. I wanna stick with a stock stall, i know a stall is huge and my reason for staying with it is dumb. So what is a good cam from TSP with lots of lope and decent power upgrade? Car is a DD right now.
Cam without a stall is no good. I had a Yank 3200 installed not too long ago and just did a heads and cam swap recently. The cam isn't even big but it lost way more drivability than the stall did. If you really want to do a cam swap and keep the stock converter you cannot have a very lopey cam at all. You really should have no bigger than like an LS6 cam with a stock stall imo.
I'll put it this way, a 4000 stall with a stock cam is more streetable (and probably even faster at the dragstrip) than a bigger cam with a stock or even a small converter.
I'll put it this way, a 4000 stall with a stock cam is more streetable (and probably even faster at the dragstrip) than a bigger cam with a stock or even a small converter.
What you asked for is an oxymoron.
There might be a tiny cam you can make work well with the stock converter, but it won't lope and depending on your definition of "decent" may or may not make the power you want.
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I went with a 3600 and kinda wish I had gotten a 4000.
A yank SS3600 with a 2.5 str is a great all around stall and will give you a very noticeable improvement in acceleration.
Do it.
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I could daily drive my Yank SS3600 (in fact I used to). If you really are that worried about it, get a 3200.
Either way, the car will gain more with the converter than the cam.
Either way, the car will gain more with the converter than the cam.
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Verdad Gallardo A half-decent converter will pick up .5 all day and more aggressive stalls can be in the .8 range. A cam is around .6-.7 and that's a pretty huge cam. A tiny cam that's good with the stock stall is maybe good for .2?
If you don't care about track times, then the stall still makes the car more fun on the street. The LS1 off-idle is nothing like an LT1 or the old SBCs. It starts to scream after 3500 with the stock cam/heads. Helping it stay in the power curve and get out of those dead zones (due to the huge drop off from first to second in the 4L60E) is a huge bonus.
If you don't care about track times, then the stall still makes the car more fun on the street. The LS1 off-idle is nothing like an LT1 or the old SBCs. It starts to scream after 3500 with the stock cam/heads. Helping it stay in the power curve and get out of those dead zones (due to the huge drop off from first to second in the 4L60E) is a huge bonus.
I made the cam before stall mistake and will repeat what has been said, Get over the stall concerns and just do it. I myself and several friends have/do daily drive LT1 Caprices with 28-3400stalls year round near Green Bay with all the snow and such that includes.
The cam I did before a stall was a ZZ4 crate motor cam in my LT1 was only 208/221, drove fine but added no performance to speak of till I gave it a stall.
Lope will surge badly with a stock stall because the converter is too tight and pulling on the brakes at idle.
The cam I did before a stall was a ZZ4 crate motor cam in my LT1 was only 208/221, drove fine but added no performance to speak of till I gave it a stall.
Lope will surge badly with a stock stall because the converter is too tight and pulling on the brakes at idle.
This^^ was me also. Should always start with stall then cam.
I daily drive a truck with a 3800 tripple disk, feels different but NO where near impossible to drive as some people on the forums like to whine about. I wish I could go 4200 noe lol
I daily drive a truck with a 3800 tripple disk, feels different but NO where near impossible to drive as some people on the forums like to whine about. I wish I could go 4200 noe lol
This was how I was also. I got used to it after a day, and I used to DD the car with the 3600 stall. Op if you are worried about a big converter you can run a 3200 with a mild cam no problems. Im sure a good 3200 stall and 228r cam would be a great DD combo.
I too am speaking from experience. I installed a 230/224 cam in mine with the stock stall. Car was a turd, pulled through the brakes, and had a bunch of idle issues related to the stall.
IMO, contact Circle D or Yank performance. I'm sure they can alleviate any concerns you might have about going with a Quality Higher stall TC for you transmission.
http://www.circledspecialties.com/
http://www.converter.cc/
http://www.circledspecialties.com/
http://www.converter.cc/