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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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Doing a cam swap on car in sig...2002 LS1... and was wondering if anyone has used OR able to find a chain tensioner/damper. http://www.norotors.com/index.php?ac...a=media;in=528

I did find some old threads on this, but was wondering if anyone is using this/ recent experience. Why is the block drilled for one?? Ties at GM too cheap??
To me seems to be cheap insurance (if I can find one).

See this thread as to why I am paranoid...https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...work-find.html
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 09:13 PM
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I don't have any experience with this part. But I plan on installing it this year.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-k30675600
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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I don't have any experience with this part. But I plan on installing it this year.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-k30675600

Thanks, but from what I understand the bolt pattern on a LS1 is wider than the LS2/3, therefore it will not fit.
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 09:55 PM
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Adapter plate & damper installed:

Chain installed:
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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My LS1 is not drilled so I use the Trickflow adapter & LS2 damper along with a Cloyes hex a just gear set & C5R chain, insurance plus!
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 07:13 AM
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You can use the adapter plate (shown in Paul Bell's post) or Katech did have some of the original dampers left in stock. I have the original in my car but my installation pre-dated the LS2.
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 10:32 AM
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Now I see...thanks guys
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by .boB
I don't have any experience with this part. But I plan on installing it this year.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-k30675600
I just installed this same kit in my new motor this week. And it looks just like what Paul has in his pics. Pretty nice piece.
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Don't know when they changed it but my '04 LS1 is drilled correctly for the LS2 dampener. I have one sitting waiting to go on.
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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ragtopz28
Thanks, but from what I understand the bolt pattern on a LS1 is wider than the LS2/3, therefore it will not fit.
It is a bit confusing. But here's what I'v been able to glean from various part numbers.

- Trick Flow says this part is for LS2 and LS3 engines.
- Trick flow also says this will fit 99-11 6.0/6.2 engines.
- The mounting plate is bolted to the same bolt holes as the cam retainer plate.
- The cam retainer plate for all LS engines carries the same part number.

I don't see why the TF part wouldn't bolt to the LS1 engine. Am I wrong?????? I have not bought the part yet, so I can't say for sure.

Some LS1's were drilled for this damper, and it was installed at the factory. Later on, GM changed the bolt spacing. You couldn't use a later model plastic dampener on an earlier LS1 block because of that; and the earlier parts are no longer available. My block doesn't appear to be drilled at all.
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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ragtopz28
Thanks, but from what I understand the bolt pattern on a LS1 is wider than the LS2/3, therefore it will not fit.
.boB, ragtopz28, it's the bolt spacing for the original damper that bolts directly to the block that changed over the years.

The adapter plate bolts to the cam retainer plate bolts so the damper mounting bolt holes in the block are not used and their width are irrelevant when using the Trick Flow kit.
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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
.boB, ragtopz28, it's the bolt spacing for the original damper that bolts directly to the block that changed over the years.

The adapter plate bolts to the cam retainer plate bolts so the damper mounting bolt holes in the block are not used and their width are irrelevant when using the Trick Flow kit.
Thanx, that's what I thought.
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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by .boB
It is a bit confusing. But here's what I'v been able to glean from various part numbers.

- Trick Flow says this part is for LS2 and LS3 engines.
- Trick flow also says this will fit 99-11 6.0/6.2 engines.
- The mounting plate is bolted to the same bolt holes as the cam retainer plate.
- The cam retainer plate for all LS engines carries the same part number.

I don't see why the TF part wouldn't bolt to the LS1 engine. Am I wrong?????? I have not bought the part yet, so I can't say for sure.

Some LS1's were drilled for this damper, and it was installed at the factory. Later on, GM changed the bolt spacing. You couldn't use a later model plastic dampener on an earlier LS1 block because of that; and the earlier parts are no longer available. My block doesn't appear to be drilled at all.
If you had read thread #5 above you will also have gotten your answer.
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I have a 5.3 I'm rebuilding. It didn't have a tensioner/dampener. What's the benefit to it and if I order it would there be any modification I would need to do?
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 06:41 AM
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There are harmonics in the motor at higher RPM that cause the chain to wrap around the crank sprocket and break. The damper prevents this. It is mainly the autocross guys who run into this issue but it is not bad insurance. I would get the Trick Flow setup if your block is not drilled and it will fit. Need to check with Trick Flow on the block fitment.
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Just want to double check, My 02 LS1 cam pre drilled...which setup would I use? Thanks
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Just want to double check, My 02 LS1 cam pre drilled...which setup would I use? Thanks
The LS6 damper, which is expensive, but for 100 bucks"ish" I'd go for it.
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I bought the LS6 dampener from Katech...showed up to my door in 1 day.
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My car is a mish-mash of parts but the block # ends in 1168 , the PCM claims it is a 2002 . Would you guess I'm drilled for the katech ?
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I would. I haven't found an 1168 block yet that wasn't drilled and tapped.
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