FIRECHICKEN5.3

K so a lot of you are probably going to crucify me for even asking.
I bought a vindicator cam 240/244 .605 .596 112+4. It was used but a good deal.

http://vengeanceracing.net/index.php...596-112-4.html

Now I have a set of new comp cams 918 springs (.625) capable. I would like to use these instead of buying another set of double springs.

Now, this cam would be going in my mostly stock 00 ws6 M6. Air lid, LT ORYP with cats and Flowmaster cat back. Stock heads and internals. 3.42 gears.

I'm worried that this monster cam is going to be too much for a non dedicated track car. It will see more street than strip.
I do like some lope and I'd love more power I'm just worried it won't be fun to drive.

So. Thoughts suggestions etc....
Thanks.

Zmg00camaross

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You are correct! It will be a slug down low. I say choose something else, 228 or low 230 cam. Unless you want to run low gears 4.10 to 4.56 weight reduction etc. it will pull hard up top no doubt. But wouldn't be suprized if a smaller cam car would out run you.

Rise of the Phoenix

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I'll out run you with my small baby dick cam.

Zmg00camaross

iTrader: (11)

I have a mildly husky cam I will outrun ya

American Psycho

If you want to actually enjoy driving your car; gears are an absolute must.

FIRECHICKEN5.3

Yeah I was afraid it was to big to be fun.

On another note is this cam too small?

222/224, Lift .566/.568, 112

David@Vengeance

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We always suggest running at least 4.10's in a M6 F-Body with the Vindicator, otherwise it will be sluggish as others have said down low.

Our VRX4 camshaft performs extremely well for most of our 3.42 F-Body customers. It is a 228/230 .588/.592 112+4

You can check it out here: Vengeance Racing | VRX4 Camshaft

FIRECHICKEN5.3

I should have got the smaller cam. Live and learn I guess.

I don't suppose you offer a trade in program?

HCI2000SS

iTrader: (2)

Hey at least it will sound badass even if it's not

Jtm2085

iTrader: (1)

I don't understand why every one always says "you will get out run by some one with a smaller cam". They say its good for the track but not the street. Who is going to go WOT from 3k RPM's when trying to race anyone or run their car hard?

HCI2000SS

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IMO if the car has some really aggressive gearing it might be a tad faster than a smaller cam, but only through an extremely narrow range...say like the last 1000 rpm. With that said it's going to be somewhat tougher on the street to always be in that very small "sweet spot" to maximize it's potential...Hence why a somewhat smaller cam will usually be faster overall. That's just my take on it

American Psycho

For an M6 car; gears can really make/break how well it performs with a big cam.

I have the MS3 with 4.10s and it does pretty well, but I used to drive it with 3.42s and it was sluggish down low. That lower gear really help a to put you in the cams powerband quicker.

FIRECHICKEN5.3

I think I'm going to run the smaller comp cam and sell the vindicator cam.

Maybe get some 3.73s

tug686spd

iTrader: (11)

If your going to change gears anyway I would keep the Vindicator. Almost everyone that goes with a 224 or 228 cam wished they went bigger. I would go with 410 gears for 26" tire and 456 for 28" tire. I'm personally running a Vindicator in a full weight Trans Am, 243's, 4k stall, 410's with 28" tire. Still getting 23mpg and when I actually made a pass without breaking something I ran 11.6@118 rolling into gas off the line because i couldnt hook up.

FIRECHICKEN5.3

Good point. I may go with 4.10 gears then and see if I like the small cam. If not it's easy enough just to swap them.

2QuikTA

Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't that cam be too big for stock heads anyway? There wouldn't be PTV issues?

FIRECHICKEN5.3

I originally thought that as well. I did a little research and apparently people have run this cam which stock heads. I think it works because the lift is not very much even though the duration is pretty big.

HCI2000SS

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Lift has nothing to do with PTV clearance. It's duration and LSA along with the advance on the ICL. Even if it does fit it's going to be extremely tight, and may not be enough clearance under load

FIRECHICKEN5.3

Ok. Then I guess I have no idea.

tug686spd

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This cam will clear PTV but is pretty tight. If my memory is correct there was about 50 thousands or so on intake with uncut 243's. I opted to mill for 11.5 compression and fly cut. I have the Lindy cutters and live near Williamsport.