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Old May 30, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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TSP 231/237 if you don't got with the X3 cam. You should be able to hit 400rwhp and almost equal torque with it. I see you are running cats as well. Hmm, yeah you're going to need all the cam you can get with cats and no LS6 intake.
I didnt notice no LS6 intake... chances are you probably wont hit 400 rwhp without one... the larger cams need to breathe up top and the LS1 intake kills them at about 6000... most guys make 15-18 rwhp adding a LS6 intake to a car that has a large cam!
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I agree I have a ported LPE intake and it is better than an Ls6 intake.
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hey six, how close will the piston to valve clearance be w/ the x2 & x3. i really want a cam and was going to get the 224 but u may have just talked me out of it! probabally best to get double springs w/ this combo huh? thanks
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Old May 31, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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hey six, how close will the piston to valve clearance be w/ the x2 & x3. i really want a cam and was going to get the 224 but u may have just talked me out of it! probabally best to get double springs w/ this combo huh? thanks
On stock heads there is no chance of hitting unless you REALLY mess something up... I miss shifts once in a while just like anyone does and mine dont smack... I wouldnt worry about PTV... save your worries for your tires that will be begging for traction
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Old May 31, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
On stock heads there is no chance of hitting unless you REALLY mess something up... I miss shifts once in a while just like anyone does and mine dont smack... I wouldnt worry about PTV... save your worries for your tires that will be begging for traction
thats what im talking about! my car traps 114mph now, i wonder what it will be after a cam like these? i guess ill flip a coin on the cams, x2 or x3.we are about to have emissions testing around here. i will have to see if is the sniffer or the computer scan. that will be the deciding factor. oh i wish you lived closer, i would love to ride in your car.thanks
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Old May 31, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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thats what im talking about! my car traps 114mph now, i wonder what it will be after a cam like these? i guess ill flip a coin on the cams, x2 or x3.we are about to have emissions testing around here. i will have to see if is the sniffer or the computer scan. that will be the deciding factor. oh i wish you lived closer, i would love to ride in your car.thanks
if you have the sniffer forget both of them.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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guess im getting an ls6 intake manifold... i didnt really see the benifit on stock internals but if im doing the cam then I will definitely need that.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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how many rpms can i wrap my motor up to without throwing a rod or messing anything up too bad
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how many rpms can i wrap my motor up to without throwing a rod or messing anything up too bad
I think everyone will agree 7000 is as high as you want to go... Valvetrain permitting of course!
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Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
I think everyone will agree 7000 is as high as you want to go... Valvetrain permitting of course!
And thats an absolute maximum. Especially for 98-00 cars with weaker rod bolts.
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Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
I think everyone will agree 7000 is as high as you want to go... Valvetrain permitting of course!
What all needs to be addressed in the valvetrain (and otherwise) to rev it out?
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Originally Posted by DMNSPD
What all needs to be addressed in the valvetrain (and otherwise) to rev it out?
Comp 921 springs, Titanium retainers, Hardened pushrods and you are pretty well set for revs... Honestly most of the cars out here running the X3 cams are higher mileage cars so dont let people scare you into thinking your engine will blow up... then again thats also based a lot upon driver and the condition of your engine...
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Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
Comp 921 springs, Titanium retainers, Hardened pushrods and you are pretty well set for revs... Honestly most of the cars out here running the X3 cams are higher mileage cars so dont let people scare you into thinking your engine will blow up... then again thats also based a lot upon driver and the condition of your engine...
Like I mentioned in the other thread, I've got less than 15K miles.

So if I went with that comp 921 kit, i'd just have to get the pushrods? What about this double roller timing chain I hear about and LS6 oil pump?
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Oh yeah...

What is the difference between chrome moly pushrods and the hardened ones?

What about lifters and rockers?
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Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
Honestly most of the cars out here running the X3 cams are higher mileage cars so dont let people scare you into thinking your engine will blow up... then again thats also based a lot upon driver and the condition of your engine...
I can guarantee you that if you rev a stock bottom ended 98-00 motor'd car to 7000rpm repeatedly, you will blow it up...whether its a spun rod bearing, or an aerated block, it will happen...It's a mechanical certainty. 7000rpm is still too high even for an 01+ motor, whether its an LS1 or LS6. Just do a search for a user named SlyWS6...and he's just one out of a few lately. He was getting away with it for a while and then BOOM! Now if you install better rods/rod bolts then you'll be fine to 7500.
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Originally Posted by MyLS1Hauls
I can guarantee you that if you rev a stock bottom ended 98-00 motor'd car to 7000rpm repeatedly, you will blow it up...whether its a spun rod bearing, or an aerated block, it will happen...It's a mechanical certainty.
Yeah... I'm not too keen on destroying a low mileage engine...
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Originally Posted by DMNSPD
Like I mentioned in the other thread, I've got less than 15K miles.

So if I went with that comp 921 kit, i'd just have to get the pushrods? What about this double roller timing chain I hear about and LS6 oil pump?
no point really, all the guys around here run stock timing chains and stock oil pumps... I personally say dont touch the oil pumps... they seem to have a tendancy to go out if tinkered with!
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Originally Posted by DMNSPD
Oh yeah...

What is the difference between chrome moly pushrods and the hardened ones?

What about lifters and rockers?
lifters are under the heads, rockers are fine. Any type of hardened pushrod is fine, I like the comp rods for like 120 bucks
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Originally Posted by MyLS1Hauls
I can guarantee you that if you rev a stock bottom ended 98-00 motor'd car to 7000rpm repeatedly, you will blow it up...whether its a spun rod bearing, or an aerated block, it will happen...It's a mechanical certainty. 7000rpm is still too high even for an 01+ motor, whether its an LS1 or LS6. Just do a search for a user named SlyWS6...and he's just one out of a few lately. He was getting away with it for a while and then BOOM! Now if you install better rods/rod bolts then you'll be fine to 7500.
tell that to the 13 customers of mine that repeatedly hit 7000 using the G5X2/X3, including myself... your engine blows up from driver error, not mechanical. The vast majority of those 13 have over 50K miles as well
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Originally Posted by DMNSPD
Yeah... I'm not too keen on destroying a low mileage engine...
Dont worry about it... try not to miss shifts, dont launch at 7000 rpm, and dont take your car to the track every weekend. If you do those three things it doesnt matter where you shift, your car is bound to blow up anyways. The LS1 is a STRONG engine, however driver error can blow a engine whether you are at 2300 rpm or 7500 rpm.
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