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Old May 22, 2015 | 12:31 AM
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i have a 408 that will be daily driven and have the **** pounded out of it on the street and prob every week or too at the track, car will be shifted at 6600 and my clearances are between 28 and 30 . i have a 7.5 quart pan with 2 -10an fittings so ill be running a remote filter, mostlikley far from the pan... and also a oil cooler. my engine builder suggests not using a hi volume.. what should it do!!!!

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Old May 22, 2015 | 06:21 AM
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Melling 10296 is what I would use
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Old May 22, 2015 | 06:25 AM
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Melling 10295 is what I use. It has 75psi @ idle when cold and about 65-70 @ idle when hot. This is on a stock 2007 LQ4 shortblock with 5W-30 oil.
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Old May 22, 2015 | 08:40 AM
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10295 is a favorite here. Its a high pressure standard volume unit.
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Old May 22, 2015 | 08:54 AM
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Get a different engine builder lol.

With a remote filter, oil cooler, and clearances that big, you're going to want some thing like a Melling 10355. It's their VVT/DOD version oil pump with a higher volume than the 10296.

A 10296 pump would probably work too, but you're likely going to see really low oil pressure at idle with a 10295.
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Kind of off topic, would the 10296 be okay for a street car or the 10295 even if it's just a heads/cam SBE car?
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Kind of off topic, would the 10296 be okay for a street car or the 10295 even if it's just a heads/cam SBE car?
Either one would be fine. I'd lean towards the 10295 though for a SBE.
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He said it will starve the pan
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If you have 65 at idle hot what is it Gina be at 7,000rpm? That scares me
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And with thos clearances come thicker oil, I'll be running 15 40 at least
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Engine builder says ported but not hi volum
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That's funny because I run a 10296 (high volume) and I never starved my oil pan. I know of several others running the 10355, which is even higher volume, and they haven't had any issues either.
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I run a ported VVT/DOD GM pump by Synergy. I run 60 PSI hot idle. It builds to about 75 over 5000.
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I like this pump: http://stores.precisionoilpumps.com/...ume-race-pump/
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Ok apparently he didnt know i had a 7.5qaurt pan even tho i told him.. i may didtch the oil cooler for now but still need the remote oil filter, just so happend i have a overkill one that was laying around and my cousin gave it to me, it uses a 2q fillter... and prob another 1/2 q in the lines... so that puts me at 10 quarts of 15/40 lol... ok if your 75 at 5k.. whats it gonna be at 7... and what oil do you run... also how do these hi volume pumps work? Do they actually have a diffrent drive or bigger casting? Or are they just ported pumps falsely claimed as hi volum? Because a stock pan i would assume would def be dry at 7k with a hi volume
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
This one def gets my attention... it even comes saftey wired! Lol i wonder why no companys ever tell you the actuall gpm.. i dont really want over 80 psi at full rev
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And i should note my engine guy has never done anything ls..mabey thats part of the diffrences of opinions here?
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http://www.improvedracing.com/oil-pu...ump-p-486.html .. heres gpm on the mellings
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I run 10W30 VR1.
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I have that pump in my motor. It wasn't safety-wired, I suppose that's an option?

I did a cranking speed test to check for leaks and pressure:

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