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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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Which heads with the TR224/ 112 lSA? (AS, PP, etc.) It's an 02 WS6 M6 with tr224, lt's, 12 bolt 4.11's, and bolt ons. I was thinking about some S2 5.3's. What kind of #'s are you putting down with this set up? Thanks for the advice in advance.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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the range i usually see is 410-430rwhp w/o the 12 bolt.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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415 rwhp / 404 rwtq with the TR224/114 and PP LS6 style heads thru a 12 bolt.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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415 rwhp / 404 rwtq with the TR224/114 and PP LS6 style heads thru a 12 bolt.

nice. thanks for the info. anyone else?
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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i have a q what made u stay with a 224/ on 112 ? y didnt u go bigger since u won pass smog either way?
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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I'm tr224 on a 114 with AS 5.3 stg. 2 heads. 405rwhp with no tune and stock rev limiter. Getting this thing tuned this weekend and with post up my results.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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With a smaller 221/221 .558/.558 114lsa I made 424rwhp 399rwtq thru a 10 bolt with 4.10's and 17x11 rears using Patriot LS6 styles.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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Dont really care for dynos but I have TEA stage 1.5s and a 224/561 on a 114LSA. Times in sig with an auto and 3800 stall. 3.42 gears. Raceweight is 3450.




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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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Dont really care for dynos but I have TEA stage 1.5s and a 224/561 on a 114LSA. Times in sig with an auto and 3800 stall. 3.42 gears. Raceweight is 3450. Stu
Nice times. I agree, dyno numbers aren't everything. I was just curious. Thanks for the info
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IF the dyno is run properly and the numbers are correct, it is a great indicator of the power you put down and the potential your car has. Also, peak numbers are not as important as a nice power curve. You need to see the whole picture. I run stock heads but am considering 5.3 S2 heads from Absolute speed even though they don't respond to emails quickly. From the numbers and times, I have seen they are the best bang for the buck as far as heads go. Just my opinion but I've heard a lot of horror stories about Patriot and I know two guys that ran TEA S2 heads with minimal improvemnet. I am not trying to bash so don't me hating.
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Originally Posted by Bowtieman4life
IF the dyno is run properly and the numbers are correct, it is a great indicator of the power you put down and the potential your car has. Also, peak numbers are not as important as a nice power curve. You need to see the whole picture. I run stock heads but am considering 5.3 S2 heads from Absolute speed even though they don't respond to emails quickly. From the numbers and times, I have seen they are the best bang for the buck as far as heads go. Just my opinion but I've heard a lot of horror stories about Patriot and I know two guys that ran TEA S2 heads with minimal improvemnet. I am not trying to bash so don't me hating.
Thanks
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we have some customers running our "stage 1" heads and similar cams making 410-420rwhp in manual trans cars (with most of the major bolt on also)
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so then i guess absolute speed's heads are the best ones for a cam that size i suppose?? how about mti's stage 2 heads??? i havent heard of anybody using those heads.. i am interested in those, but i dont see anybody using them?????
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by whitecamaross
so then i guess absolute speed's heads are the best ones for a cam that size i suppose?? how about mti's stage 2 heads??? i havent heard of anybody using those heads.. i am interested in those, but i dont see anybody using them?????
Yeah, i'm thinking the AS S2 5.3's, the MTI heads are pretty pricey
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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ok i know mti's are pricey, but how do they perform????
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If you do a search on JFM's car, he ran an 11.04 w/ Absolute Speed heads and a th224 cam, this was almost 2 years ago, Jays new CNC port flows alot better then the heads JFM used back then. Give Jay a call. He'll take care of you.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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I have the 224 on a 114,im going with the AS stage II 6.0L heads,CR should be around 10.8,hopefully mine will be here in a couple of weeks if I can ever get ahold of Jay.Ill let you guys know how they turn out.
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