Is 420 rwhp to high
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Is 420 rwhp to high Trying to figure what RWHP I'll be looking at with this combo..
B1 cam (221/221 .558/.558 114)
GTP Stage 1 heads
FLP headers
LS6 intake
ASP pulley
Borla exhaust
Whisper lid
Considering ported TB
Stock 10 bolt with 3:42's
Car is an M6
Already have tuning but that would get updated
Trying to decide if I should spend the money and go with Stage 2 heads and a different cam such as the C1 (btw I already have these parts in my garage)
This is a daily drive and my wife does drive the car from time to time, doesn't see a whole bunch of track duty, the occasional 1/4 mile run. I'd like to start AutoX and RR too. I have some suspension parts too but that doesn't really matter on the dyno.
Thanks
Mike
B1 cam (221/221 .558/.558 114)
GTP Stage 1 heads
FLP headers
LS6 intake
ASP pulley
Borla exhaust
Whisper lid
Considering ported TB
Stock 10 bolt with 3:42's
Car is an M6
Already have tuning but that would get updated
Trying to decide if I should spend the money and go with Stage 2 heads and a different cam such as the C1 (btw I already have these parts in my garage)
This is a daily drive and my wife does drive the car from time to time, doesn't see a whole bunch of track duty, the occasional 1/4 mile run. I'd like to start AutoX and RR too. I have some suspension parts too but that doesn't really matter on the dyno.
Thanks
Mike
Re: Is 420 rwhp to high i'll watch this thread because i'm curious as well. with a stage one head, i think the b1 could make between 400-415 (with all bolt-on mods and good exhaust), especially with your stock rear. stage two, maybe 420-430.
let us know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
let us know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Is 420 rwhp to high Vince - was your 421hp through your 4.10 gear?
BTW Jayson at MTI will be doing the tuning, he did it the first time and said he would update when I got everything on.
BTW Jayson at MTI will be doing the tuning, he did it the first time and said he would update when I got everything on.
Re: Is 420 rwhp to high hey dude,
i found this on the "other" board:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Well I have the gtp stage 2 5.7 heads milled .030 and I put down 410rwhp and 380rwtq with all the boltons no cats and flp headers with a B1 lunati cam 220/220 .558 lift on a 114lsa so I'm not to sure about Smoke's statement saying all gtp cars dyno in the 430-440 rwhp range and I seriously doubt a reverse split cam or some type of big cam is going to give me an additional 30 rwhp and 30 rwtq over a B1. As a side note that was my best pull. My first pull was 400 rwhp and 375 rwtq and I got the bump to 410 rwhp by playing with the maft. This dyno was done thru a stock 10bolt with 4.10 gears. No codes or any type of problems were apparent either with a 12.8 a/f.
Also my car was by no means a low dyno car originally. With the cam and headers only I dynoed 370 rwhp and 368 rwtq so it would have been nice to pick up more than 12 rwtq with the addition of the heads.
If I were to do it over again I would have gone with TEA 5.3 heads and saved a couple of bucks.
steve
I'm running that puny b1cam with about 10.6 compression on my gtp heads.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">his sig:
99ss m6, GTP stage 2 heads(5.7), B1 lunati cam, all boltons with fikse fm10 rims.
username is "SB".
hope that helps.
i think with more compression ratio (11.0 to 1), he might hit that 420 hp mark.
i found this on the "other" board:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Well I have the gtp stage 2 5.7 heads milled .030 and I put down 410rwhp and 380rwtq with all the boltons no cats and flp headers with a B1 lunati cam 220/220 .558 lift on a 114lsa so I'm not to sure about Smoke's statement saying all gtp cars dyno in the 430-440 rwhp range and I seriously doubt a reverse split cam or some type of big cam is going to give me an additional 30 rwhp and 30 rwtq over a B1. As a side note that was my best pull. My first pull was 400 rwhp and 375 rwtq and I got the bump to 410 rwhp by playing with the maft. This dyno was done thru a stock 10bolt with 4.10 gears. No codes or any type of problems were apparent either with a 12.8 a/f.
Also my car was by no means a low dyno car originally. With the cam and headers only I dynoed 370 rwhp and 368 rwtq so it would have been nice to pick up more than 12 rwtq with the addition of the heads.
If I were to do it over again I would have gone with TEA 5.3 heads and saved a couple of bucks.
steve
I'm running that puny b1cam with about 10.6 compression on my gtp heads.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">his sig:
99ss m6, GTP stage 2 heads(5.7), B1 lunati cam, all boltons with fikse fm10 rims.
username is "SB".
hope that helps.
i think with more compression ratio (11.0 to 1), he might hit that 420 hp mark.
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Re: Is 420 rwhp to high I found his site. Guess I was mistaken he only made 430 something but through 4.10 gears.
http://www.geocities.com/smoke_ur_50/index.html
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http://www.geocities.com/smoke_ur_50/index.html
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Verdad Gallardo Re: Is 420 rwhp to high nice. i went to his site and since he added dynotech headers, he now makes 435rwhp/410rwtq with EMT stage 2 heads. wow. i wonder what type of y pipe he's using...
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EXHAUST:
Dynatech Headers w/off road y-pipe(ceramic coated)
Random Technologies catback (with cutout)
so now i wonder how much hp the cutout gave since the random tech cat-back is pretty straight thru design.
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EXHAUST:
Dynatech Headers w/off road y-pipe(ceramic coated)
Random Technologies catback (with cutout)
so now i wonder how much hp the cutout gave since the random tech cat-back is pretty straight thru design.
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Re: Is 420 rwhp to high </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by blky2kta:
<strong> Trying to decide if I should spend the money and go with Stage 2 heads and a different cam such as the C1 (btw I already have these parts in my garage)
This is a daily drive and my wife does drive the car from time to time, doesn't see a whole bunch of track duty, the occasional 1/4 mile run. I'd like to start AutoX and RR too. I have some suspension parts too but that doesn't really matter on the dyno.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You don't need that LS6 intake. It's power is a myth. You should just give it to me. I just want it for nostalgia. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
<small>[ March 17, 2003, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: CySevans ]</small>
<strong> Trying to decide if I should spend the money and go with Stage 2 heads and a different cam such as the C1 (btw I already have these parts in my garage)
This is a daily drive and my wife does drive the car from time to time, doesn't see a whole bunch of track duty, the occasional 1/4 mile run. I'd like to start AutoX and RR too. I have some suspension parts too but that doesn't really matter on the dyno.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You don't need that LS6 intake. It's power is a myth. You should just give it to me. I just want it for nostalgia. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
<small>[ March 17, 2003, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: CySevans ]</small>
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Re: Is 420 rwhp to high </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CySevans:
<strong>You don't need that LS6 intake. It's power is a myth. You should just give it to me. I just want it for nostalgia. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nice try, Vince <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>You don't need that LS6 intake. It's power is a myth. You should just give it to me. I just want it for nostalgia. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nice try, Vince <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: Is 420 rwhp to high Go with the S2 heads. My B1 made 391 RWHP with stock heads and 424 RWHP with S2 heads. Driveability with this cam is awesome! Not to mention that it will pass emissions.
Re: Is 420 rwhp to high Smoke_ur_5.0's car I remember only being around 3 hp difference between full exhaust and having the tail section of the random tech off... You might want to ask him though.... His name is Mark of Raging Motorsports------------>
I know he is running true duals now, and his own raging cam.. His car is brutally quick!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
I know he is running true duals now, and his own raging cam.. His car is brutally quick!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Re: Is 420 rwhp to high I should be at 420rwhp with the ported TB, also hoping for 4xxrwtq
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