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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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LS6 cam isn't much of an upgrade from stock, and a brand new better cam can be had for almost the same price.

LS9 cam is cheaper, but requires $250 in other parts to work in a Gen 3, and makes much less torque than most of the other stock cams.

Either stay stock or get a real cam. Don't go through the trouble of swapping in 15 HP.
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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
LS6 cam isn't much of an upgrade from stock, and a brand new better cam can be had for almost the same price.

LS9 cam is cheaper, but requires $250 in other parts to work in a Gen 3, and makes much less torque than most of the other stock cams.

Either stay stock or get a real cam. Don't go through the trouble of swapping in 15 HP.
So what do you consider a real cam? I've got to watch what I buy depending on if I have to do turbo to get the hp I want.
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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Leechevy86
So what do you consider a real cam? I've got to watch what I buy depending on if I have to do turbo to get the hp I want.

Little John, Martin @ Tick, Cam Motion, Brian Tooley just to name a few.
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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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Or do a bunch of reading before you buy any parts at all. Get a plan to do what you want. And copy someones build. Check the classifieds out, joinj groups on fb, start searching used for good stuff. Youll be surprised what you can get
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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Leechevy86
So what do you consider a real cam? I've got to watch what I buy depending on if I have to do turbo to get the hp I want.
My go-to cheap cam for any 4.8/5.3 street car is the Trick Flow 216/220. Works great with single beehive springs like the PAC1218 that let you get away with stock valvetrain (chain, pushrods, rockers, etc). You can get the cam and springs both for $400 if you shop around a bit.

If you want to spend a little extra, grab a Triple 12 from Stock48 here on the forums. I actually prefer it over the Trick Flow, but its more expensive and might take a bit longer to get your hands on depending on how backed up he is.
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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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Assuming an 88 is a T6 frame, running heat wrapped 2 1/4" hot side and a smaller GT2-3 camshaft from Lingenfelter (uses factory yellow springs) will make it more responsive and quicker to "kick" that big housing
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Leechevy86
First ls motor, ive seen alot on these and want to learn more, so for my first build i could use some direction. I have a 2003 yukon 5.3 lm7, looking for a few options on how to make around 700hp and be dependable and streatable. Just got the block cleaned in a hot bath and we're ready for install process soon as I get the parts I will be using.

Going into an 86 z28 Camaro.

Trying to avoid turbo or supercharger, considered a forged bottom end for safety, don't want to put all this money into it just to blow it up. Have considered a used p1sc pro charger. Anyone have some build sheets or ideas to go off of. And if I use the stock heads (which I'd like to) what kind of work would they need? Ideas on cams to run procharged or not. Intakes for either option? Give me some ideas, I realize 700 hp non turboed would be pretty hard to achieve, would love to get there NA but...

Oh and I want the cam to sound mean and Lopey but don't want to go too nuts.

And no, I'm Not punching it out to a 5.7 nor am I making it a stroker or changing the crank specs other then maybe swapping over to full forged bottom end. And no im not getting a 6.0.... Money is tight at the moment. I'm working with what I have and trying to put a serious build sheet together.

Thanks guys!
You eliminated way to many options to make this happen "cheaply".

Also you're trying to do this "cheap" and nobody as mentioned it. Unless you have a 4L80E or you've managed to swap a T56, you're going to destory the 4L60E in your truck very fast with 700hp.
Somehow I completed missed the part about this going into an 86 Camaro.
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by INSANEREINDEER
You eliminated way to many options to make this happen "cheaply".

Also you're trying to do this "cheap" and nobody as mentioned it. Unless you have a 4L80E or you've managed to swap a T56, you're going to destory the 4L60E in your truck very fast with 700hp.
Somehow I completed missed the part about this going into an 86 Camaro.
Ever heard of mad dog transmissions?
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Leechevy86
Ever heard of mad dog transmissions?
Have you?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/ls1tech-s...ld-tricks.html

The guy that runs the place is banned from this site.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Have you?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/ls1tech-s...ld-tricks.html

The guy that runs the place is banned from this site.

There's always monster transmissions too
I own one already. Haven't had an issue other then had to order a pump washer off of ebay that was double thickness... good for 650 horse in a 700r4. They make then for 4l60s too
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:29 AM
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There are LOTS of people on this site that have broken 700+ HP rated 4L60s at 500whp. You're only crutching yourself.

A stock 80e can handle as much or more power than most built 4L60s. Its a no-brainer.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
There are LOTS of people on this site that have broken 700+ HP rated 4L60s at 500whp. You're only crutching yourself.

A stock 80e can handle as much or more power than most built 4L60s. Its a no-brainer.
If I can find one I would. But there's gotta be a reason I've seen alot of 4l60s under prostreeted cars
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 10:04 AM
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Sounds like you have it figured out. Go for it.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Sounds like you have it figured out. Go for it.
I'm not being a dick or anything I'm just saying I don't know why people want the 4l60 so bad if they can't handle 500 horse
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Leechevy86
I'm not being a dick or anything I'm just saying I don't know why people want the 4l60 so bad if they can't handle 500 horse
Sounds like the exact same question so many of us are wondering as well.
Go to the automatic section. You'll find guys doing the 80e swap after breaking their 3rd 4L60e.

Biggest problem with the 80e is its size and weight. Its not a small trans by any means, and a lot of older cars won't swap them because they have to dent the floor or replace the trans tunnel. I went with the great big hammer route when I swapped in mine.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Sounds like the exact same question so many of us are wondering as well.
Go to the automatic section. You'll find guys doing the 80e swap after breaking their 3rd 4L60e.

Biggest problem with the 80e is its size and weight. Its not a small trans by any means, and a lot of older cars won't swap them because they have to dent the floor or replace the trans tunnel. I went with the great big hammer route when I swapped in mine.
Any other options, it may be harder to modify the third generation tunnel. Or know anyone that's done it?
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 06:39 PM
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Find a glide maybe?
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 5FOX3
Find a glide maybe?
Thought about it but I love having overdrive
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 08:11 AM
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my manager makes ~650 to the wheel with a stroked LM4 in a 93 RX7; 10.0 1/4 mile consistently trapping 138mph. But again, stroked.
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my manager makes ~650 to the wheel with a stroked LM4 in a 93 RX7
No he doesn't. Unless that thing is "stroked" to 427+ cubic inches.

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