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Old 11-04-2016 | 06:28 PM
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Hello, still pretty new here.

I just had a 227/234 113 lsa comp cam installed on my 02 Camaro SS at the performance shop along with 799 machined heads and I HATE to say it but I don't think i feel a real big difference... maybe once i hit 3rd gear. I don't know...

Im not sure if its missing something thats vital to these mods or it gained quite a bit and i can't really feel it, or it shouldn't be such a significant gain. I can't tell you how much it sucks because I was expecting to feel the difference immediately. Super sad.

I was hoping someone with some experience on having cams installed with heads would have some idea as to why this is or whats going on? ask me anything you need to. thanks guys...
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Well sorry to hear, first off would be nice to know mods before hand? Lots of things to factor in. Is it tuned? Run out of fuel maybe? so many other things
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Is your car an auto or 6 speed?
If it's an auto you won't feel much without a higher stall torque converter.

What all is done to the heads? As there is not much gains to be had going from stock 241 heads to stock 799 heads.

Was it tuned on a dyno after installation?
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auto? stock converter? headers?
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Originally Posted by rarmendariz15
Hello, still pretty new here.

I just had a 227/234 113 lsa comp cam installed on my 02 Camaro SS at the performance shop along with 799 machined heads and I HATE to say it but I don't think i feel a real big difference... maybe once i hit 3rd gear. I don't know...

Im not sure if its missing something thats vital to these mods or it gained quite a bit and i can't really feel it, or it shouldn't be such a significant gain. I can't tell you how much it sucks because I was expecting to feel the difference immediately. Super sad.

I was hoping someone with some experience on having cams installed with heads would have some idea as to why this is or whats going on? ask me anything you need to. thanks guys...

What were your mods before? If just bolt ons, you need a tune after cam swap. Also, bigger injectors too. I'm almost maxed out with stock injectors with just a ls6 top end. I'm at 93% at wot.
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It was street tuned after the mods as they do not have a dyno in-house, it is a 6 speed, the heads were taken to a machine shop I can't write remember if they were ported or not, it has BBK shorty headers which I'm thinking of just turning into longitudes by deleting the cats, I did not get bigger injectors though.
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you need bigger injectors and 1 7/8 long tubes.
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You don't need bigger injectors. I doubt you are maxing them out with 400rwhp or so (maybe less - shorty headers hurt).

But if you're in the 380+rwhp range you should feel a difference from stock. Maybe not a huge gain, but after 3000RPM you should feel it.
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Injectors might be a problem. I have seen some cam only's get extremely close to maxing out injectors. Need to see the duty cycle. id say get some 1&7/8 long tubes, 3" duals with x pipe over axle or dumped, make sure you got right plugs too. Get it re tuned.
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In an 02 with 28lbs injectors?
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Not going to make any power with BBK junk shorties on there, and you're going to run out of injector with longtubes.
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Definitely need the right exhaust and you should notice the car is a good bit quicker.
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In an 02 with 28lbs injectors?
Yessir, when i was originally doing my "cam only" I found a hand full of people saying their injectors were pretty much maxed out and if they were to do heads of 243/799 they would need to do injectors.
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It's hit or miss with stock 28lb injectors...some have made up to 450whp running 90% DTC, others go static making less power. You can find flowmatched GTP white injectors for cheap...its worth spending the 1-120.00 for them and they are easy to tune. They flow 41lb @ 58psi.
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Sorry for the late response been pretty busy. Im responding now before I have to get going, believe it or not the cam does have a nice little choppy idle to it, I wonder how I can emphasize this lope? Long tubes with X pipe I'm assuming? Im wondering why they didn't feel the need to use bigger injectors? I have NGK plugs in there.

Im hearing definitely longtubes from everyone here right? so I think that will be my next goal with an ORY or Xpipe and some 4.10 gears.
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Agree on the GTP injectors. Best ones for the LS1. Most complete data from them.
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Im also hearing that I should get bigger injectors regardless? sounds like they won't hurt and the 28lbs injectors i have might be maxing out right?
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The shorties are bottle necking at least 25 ponies
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
The shorties are bottle necking at least 25 ponies
You sure about that?

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Cool video for sure. Other than being an LS it does share almost nothing with the OP's combo. Specially the cam with 26 more degrees of exhaust duration.
Perhaps what I should have said was on my small cam 346 vette I picked up three full miles per hour in the quarter going from BBK shorties with four cats to long tubes with dual 3" cats
Point taken though.....


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