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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:04 AM
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11.8 CR and 98 octane premium.
Is that enough octane to run daily on the steet without being plagued by detonation?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:10 AM
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Default 11.8 CR Need advice

Planning on getting MTI 5.3 stage 2E (58cc).
Which will net me a 11.8 CR.

Now I need feedback as to whether 98 Octane premium is enough to run normally on the street and be safe from detonation

Here Regular is 95 Octane and Premium 98.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:58 AM
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I use to run 11.4-1 on 93 octain and 30 degree's of timing..The Cam overlap also plays a role on compression.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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are you sure you'll be at 11.8:1? How much are they going to mill off the 5.3L heads? I had .040 which I was told was 11.8:1...but I haven't CC'ed to verify.

I run 93 octane without any pinging
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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Well, you can't go wrong with posting it here. I've heard of guys running 11:1 on 93 premium. You will be cutting it close. It also depends on your timing, the quality of your heads, and a million other things. I'm really not sure, but until somebody more qualified answers you, I'll say that it will be cutting it close.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Planning on getting MTI 5.3 stage 2E (58cc).
Which will net me a 11.8 CR.

Now I need feedback as to whether 98 Octane premium is enough to run normally on the street and be safe from detonation

Here Regular is 95 Octane and Premium 98.
Your premium is 98?! Dang it! Tennessee sucks!
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
are you sure you'll be at 11.8:1? How much are they going to mill off the 5.3L heads? I had .040 which I was told was 11.8:1...but I haven't CC'ed to verify.

I run 93 octane without any pinging
Well I e-mailed Jayson at MTI to find out for sure. It is the 5.3 Stage 2E (High CR) that they have on special for 1795 outright (No exchange)

He said they are 58cc which will be around 11.7>11.8:1 with graphite gaskets.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
I use to run 11.4-1 on 93 octain and 30 degree's of timing..The Cam overlap also plays a role on compression.
Cam is going to be X1 230/227 112lsa which has +4.5 degree of overlap
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by steve2001sh
Well, you can't go wrong with posting it here. I've heard of guys running 11:1 on 93 premium. You will be cutting it close. It also depends on your timing, the quality of your heads, and a million other things. I'm really not sure, but until somebody more qualified answers you, I'll say that it will be cutting it close.
Heads: MTI 5.3 Stage 2E (58cc)
Cam X1 230/227 112lsa with +4.5 degree overlap
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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You can run even more compression then that if you have the tune done correctly and timing pulled out. However I am sure you are asking the question because you want to run 28-30 degrees of timing (where most guys make best power) and at the same time have no knock.
You typed 98 octane. I have never seen this but if 98 is the correct number then you should be just fine.
If you ment 93 octand I wouldn't go much higher then 11.3 CR.
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I have no problems with 93 octane. I don't think my compression ratio is that high.. and those heads should be close to the same as mine.

Give MTI a call.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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It aint fair you get 98 from the pump. Out here we get crappy 91. 95-96 would be fine.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
I have no problems with 93 octane. I don't think my compression ratio is that high.. and those heads should be close to the same as mine.

Give MTI a call.
According to the sticky table in this forum

58.27cc will yield 11.6:1 so I figured that a flat 58cc would be around 11.7>11.8:1

Was I wrong in my assumption?

You are running 5.7 stage 2E's and mine would be 5.3's (58cc).

What is your CC on your heads??
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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from what i've learned dynamic compression will be a better determinant. FWIW im going to be around 11.6 for my new setup, will probably have to run a mix of race if im going to be able to run high timing with 91
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
You can run even more compression then that if you have the tune done correctly and timing pulled out. However I am sure you are asking the question because you want to run 28-30 degrees of timing (where most guys make best power) and at the same time have no knock.
You typed 98 octane. I have never seen this but if 98 is the correct number then you should be just fine.
If you ment 93 octand I wouldn't go much higher then 11.3 CR.
I do not live in the US. Here gas is 95 Octane regular and 98 octane premium.
Wish it was like that in back home in TX.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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I didn't CC my heads before install. Like I said above. Give the guys at MTI a call. I'm sure they can tell you right away what's best for your combo.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Just make sure you run colder plugs and close the gap to
.35-.40 and youll be fine.
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