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Old Dec 15, 2016 | 09:27 PM
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I'm putting together a 600hp forged 5.3 in a touring/road coarse/track car and I was wondering..

how far can you push a conventional wet sump oil system? I'm sure baffles will help tremendously but I was looking into drysump kits and boy are they expensive.

do you think a simple high pressure oil pump and baffled oil pan will handle it? This car will be a daily driver and will be pushed pretty hard on street.

any help is appreciated. Thanks
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Any suggestions?
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Hi, research about Accusump devices.

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Accusump will solve a lot of oiling issues as far as running the pan dry and overcoming cavitation.

Check out Improved Racing's products.


How do you plan on making 600hp with a 5.3 and still be daily driveable?
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Accusump will solve a lot of oiling issues as far as running the pan dry and overcoming cavitation.

Check out Improved Racing's products.


How do you plan on making 600hp with a 5.3 and still be daily driveable?
twin 62s. And that's why everything is forged, and I've used arp studs for literally everything. Hopefully should be reliable at 5-600 hp and if I ever get bored, I have room to grow up to 900hp
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Just did a bit of research on accusump, it's cool but I don't know, is there anyway to piece together a drysump kit from ebay?
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I wouldn't trust a cheap dry sump system to be any better than a good wet sump system. I think you would be fine with a well thought out wet sump would be fine for you.
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I wouldn't trust a cheap dry sump system to be any better than a good wet sump system. I think you would be fine with a well thought out wet sump would be fine for you.
would you go with a high pressure oil pump and baffled oil pan?
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I would, yes.

Unless your protouring vehicle is a dedicated road racing vehicle, I do not believe you will outrun the limits of a well thought out wet sump system. The Improved Racing crank scraper and baffles in a factory oil pan, or any other quality crank scraper and baffles in the factory pan for that matter, and a high pressure oil pump will be fine for most spirited driving/hooning/autoX.

If you want to go a step further, add an Accu-sump to the above combination.

If that still isn't enough, then you can step up to an extra capacity oil pan, and a high volume oil pump. Still using a crank scraper, and still using an Accu-sump.

If all of that still fails to provide adequate oiling in the turns, then you need to look into quality dry sump kits. But most people do not ever find themselves in competitive enough racing conditions to warrant even switching from the factory oil pan to a high capacity pan, much less actually needing dry sump.
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