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Old 02-04-2017, 05:15 PM
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Putting together my heads/cam on my LS1 (5.7)...went to check PTV today and the results are...odd. I almost wasn't going to check because I assumed I'd be safe choosing a smaller cam.

0.07 intake and 0.115 exhaust.

Seems really off...so I checked it twice and got the same results both times. I checked PTV on #1, using clay with the Livernois Dual springs installed on the heads. Converted 2 lifters to solid, set rockers to zero lash, rotated crank a number of times. Did I miss something?

BTR Stage 2 cam: 227/234 .614"/.576" 113+2
Livernois Stage 3 243 heads: milled 0.15, 2.02 SS intake valves, 1.575 exhaust valves
GM MLS gaskets: 0.51

Am I safe to run this with these clearances, or does something seem wrong?
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Seems legit to me from what others report with a slightly milled head, slightly larger intake valve diameter, and a 227/228 sized intake lobe.
.070" is fine on the intake.....most prefer .080" but plenty of "cam only" guys have reported as tight as .040'-.060' range
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Does Livernois drop the intake valve down like TEA use to do?(and still might)
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
Seems legit to me from what others report with a slightly milled head, slightly larger intake valve diameter, and a 227/228 sized intake lobe.
.070" is fine on the intake.....most prefer .080" but plenty of "cam only" guys have reported as tight as .040'-.060' range
It just threw me off that Intake would be under .08 while exhaust would be so much over .1. I chose this cam because it was on the smaller side so I wouldn't run into issues. Hah!

I suppose as long as I have plenty of exhaust clearance, I'm ok running slightly tighter intake...?

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Does Livernois drop the intake valve down like TEA use to do?(and still might)
Oh wow, that's a really good question, and would explain the results I'm seeing. Maybe I'll give them a call tomorrow.
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Not sure if this helps, but i run Livernois stage 3 LS6 heads out the box with TSP 233/239 112 and have no clearance issues.

These heads are a work of art...
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
Not sure if this helps, but i run Livernois stage 3 LS6 heads out the box with TSP 233/239 112 and have no clearance issues.

These heads are a work of art...
Did you check PTV? That's quite a bit more intake duration than I'm running.

The heads really are a work of art. I'd almost rather hang them on the wall.

I bought them off craigslist, brand new with protective film still on the decks...which has me somewhat worried that they're milled more than I was told. I guess as long as my exhaust clearance is ok I'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Detroit
Did you check PTV? That's quite a bit more intake duration than I'm running.

The heads really are a work of art. I'd almost rather hang them on the wall.

I bought them off craigslist, brand new with protective film still on the decks...which has me somewhat worried that they're milled more than I was told. I guess as long as my exhaust clearance is ok I'll be fine.

Im running the heads right out the box. No issues.
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
Im running the heads right out the box. No issues.
Awesome! I'm pretty excited.
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.070" is okay. The bigger issue is the exhaust clearance. And you're good there.

One thing I would caution - did you torque the head down? I didn't my first time when I did measurements and when I torqued down, I was off about .015" everywhere because the Cometics I had squished down when torqued. If using ARP head bolts, it's easier to do since you can reuse them. And you just need to do the 4 around the cylinder you are checking.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
.070" is okay. The bigger issue is the exhaust clearance. And you're good there.

One thing I would caution - did you torque the head down? I didn't my first time when I did measurements and when I torqued down, I was off about .015" everywhere because the Cometics I had squished down when torqued. If using ARP head bolts, it's easier to do since you can reuse them. And you just need to do the 4 around the cylinder you are checking.
Well, that's a good point. I'm using ARP bolts, and tightened them down pretty tight, but didn't use the torque wrench to verify. I'm sure they were short of the torque spec, but probably not by a lot.

Might be worth torquing to do a final check considering that I'm kind of tight on the intake. Thanks for the heads up!



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