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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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Hey. Ive been seeing alot of 10second heads cam only ls1's on the net. I already have patriot stage 2 ls6 heads in my garage, that i bought from a buddy for 1k. What would be a kick *** cam to get me mid 10's after i get a few other bolt ons done and is streetable to some extent? thanx
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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Just go with a 224/224 561 114lsa cam... oh and one other thing....

How about either a 1/4 mile track that slopes at 89 degree downward incline, or a very large turbine engine strapped to your roof..

Oh, hope you're planning on a 2600 lb race weight. lol
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999_SS_M6
Just go with a 224/224 561 114lsa cam... oh and one other thing....

How about either a 1/4 mile track that slopes at 89 degree downward incline, or a very large turbine engine strapped to your roof..

Oh, hope you're planning on a 2600 lb race weight. lol
I hope you're not implying that this is not possible.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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I hope you're not implying that this is not possible.
no, he's implying that those cars that run 10's H/C only are STRIPPED to the max, close to 3100-3200lbs. Thats def. not daily driver material
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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You do know there are cam only cars runing 10's right?
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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I guess that means it's easy to do then, right? Since there are a few cars out there doing it, I guess everybody with cammed car should be running 10's then..

Look dude, my point, as well as RedHotZ28's point is simply that most people's idea of a "daily driver" car and running mid 10's have no place in the same sentence.. especially when he raises the bar by saying he wants to do it naturally aspirated with head/cam and bolt ons.. These cars are fast, sure, but physics DO still apply, and if this guy thinks that if he jabs in a lumpy cam, adds a set of ported heads, and bolts a FTRA onto an otherwise stock car to start running 10.50's, he's in for a hard lesson on speed.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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well since i do know 11's are easy with heads cam i will shot for that n/a with a power adder cam and then try and get a procharger or some juice and then ill see 10's. I do know im gonna need a rearend and some suspension parts, but it will be done
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 1999_SS_M6
I guess that means it's easy to do then, right? Since there are a few cars out there doing it, I guess everybody with cammed car should be running 10's then..

Look dude, my point, as well as RedHotZ28's point is simply that most people's idea of a "daily driver" car and running mid 10's have no place in the same sentence.. especially when he raises the bar by saying he wants to do it naturally aspirated with head/cam and bolt ons.. These cars are fast, sure, but physics DO still apply, and if this guy thinks that if he jabs in a lumpy cam, adds a set of ported heads, and bolts a FTRA onto an otherwise stock car to start running 10.50's, he's in for a hard lesson on speed.
damn, couldnt of said it better myself
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LOL!!! You guys kill me!

10 seconds in 80*f and 70% humidity weather, heads, cam, N/A, pump gas, 3380lb raceweight, all safety features, a/c, stock monsoon sound system, stock k-member and a-arms, stock stamp steel torque arm, and the list goes on. oh and street driven always, not just to the track!

LSwonder just go for it, it is possible, with the right combo and practice.

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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well i am gonna do a lil bit of weight reduction like a tubular kmember some drag suspension pieces and a few other things.oh btw iver heard some good things about the magic stick camshaft hows it run?
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Hows it run??? do you mean during everyday driving or at the track?? On the track it flys, We have not even had a chance to get any kind of decent weather and it has been in the 10's every visit except once it went two 11.0's, but track prep was not great and we were spinning a little and then it started to rain. As far as everyday driving, it runs quite well. It took 2 tunes to get all of the cold surging to go away and that is only because we were trying to get it to idle to low, but now everything is great.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:28 AM
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whats the part number on that cam. I cannot find it on their website
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:51 AM
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i ran 10.6 last time out and i have 103 k miles. cam only and a little bit of squeeze.
Drive it everyday Cold A/C jammin stereo system.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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spend some smart $$$ ahead of time and upgrade your tranny or AAA can tow you home like they did for me a couple of weeks ago!
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:32 AM
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arent M6's alot stronger than the autos? i am gonna be getting a spec stage 3 soon
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
LOL!!! You guys kill me!

10 seconds in 80*f and 70% humidity weather, heads, cam, N/A, pump gas, 3380lb raceweight, all safety features, a/c, stock monsoon sound system, stock k-member and a-arms, stock stamp steel torque arm, and the list goes on. oh and street driven always, not just to the track!

LSwonder just go for it, it is possible, with the right combo and practice.

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as its been stated before many a times; A4 + big stall + sticky tires + modest power = fast et's.

but how many full weight optioned m6 cars are in the 10's?
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lswonder
arent M6's alot stronger than the autos? i am gonna be getting a spec stage 3 soon
the t-56 is a strong tranny, its the 10 bolt thats gonna bust. stock rear end is a bit more forgiving with the 4l60e then it is the t-56. a 12 bolt should accompany the spec 3 if you plan to do some serious track running.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
LOL!!! You guys kill me!

10 seconds in 80*f and 70% humidity weather, heads, cam, N/A, pump gas, 3380lb raceweight, all safety features, a/c, stock monsoon sound system, stock k-member and a-arms, stock stamp steel torque arm, and the list goes on. oh and street driven always, not just to the track!

LSwonder just go for it, it is possible, with the right combo and practice.

Clint
Very inspiring! Now I need to set my car up.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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as said ... 10 sec is not easy, especially if wanting to maintain decent street manners...my car is about 3200lbs runs very good and has decent street manners but in order to get 10s I'll have to get better 60ft which means more tire and 6000rpm launch plus right temp/air .... which means more clutch-gears-build up of rear end etc etc....my point is 10s isn't easy you have to earn it the "old fashened way" (hard work and money)... good luck.
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With nitrous, sure you can do it. Without? Good luck. It takes a major amount of power to push a M6 NA car into the 10's weighing over 3,200. One of my buddies has a 382 NA, stripped interior, etc. etc. etc running 10.75. It puts down like 475 rwhp through a 12 bolt. He just busted another DS. That much power causes the weak links to break right and left.
For your question, I say a nice 230/230 cam.
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