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Old 06-07-2017, 04:51 AM
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So I may have a lead on a low mileage LQ9. That would change my build significantly. If the bottom end looks good, I'd just leave it alone. Put my L92 heads on and a nice cam (with matching springs, new rockers, lifters, timing set, etc).

I've been reading a bunch about not over-camming the L92 heads. With that in mind, would it be safe to say I could build a respectable performing engine without fly cutting the pistons? Also, is there any way to tell an LQ9 from an LQ4 without seeing the pistons? Its supposed to be a drive by wire setup.

And most importantly, what are some main things to look for when buying an LS (other than making sure it actually rotates)? It was supposed to be running good when removed.
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Our high lift hot cam is a great cruiser and makes good power and is still easy to drive.
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Originally Posted by SheepDog209
So I may have a lead on a low mileage LQ9. That would change my build significantly. If the bottom end looks good, I'd just leave it alone. Put my L92 heads on and a nice cam (with matching springs, new rockers, lifters, timing set, etc).

I've been reading a bunch about not over-camming the L92 heads. With that in mind, would it be safe to say I could build a respectable performing engine without fly cutting the pistons? Also, is there any way to tell an LQ9 from an LQ4 without seeing the pistons? Its supposed to be a drive by wire setup.

And most importantly, what are some main things to look for when buying an LS (other than making sure it actually rotates)? It was supposed to be running good when removed.
I don't think there is a way to tell LQ9 from the LQ4 without the vin or looking at the pistons. If the motor is out you should be able to look in the spark plug hole with a light and see if the piston is flat LQ9 or dished LQ4.
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More options include finding the LY6 or L92 truck engines. They come with the bigger rectangle port heads. They may be a little pricier, but it will save you from chasing the rectangle port heads separately.
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I actually stumbled across the rectangle port heads and picked them up already. Had the idea of what direction I wanted to go with the engine early on.
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Originally Posted by SheepDog209
I actually stumbled across the rectangle port heads and picked them up already. Had the idea of what direction I wanted to go with the engine early on.
Nice!

As far as a camshaft goes, you can still be pretty aggressive without cutting valve reliefs unless you mill the heads. What intake manifold are you planning to run?

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Not too sure yet on the intake. Sounds like possibly an ls6 or some variant. Suggestions?
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Rec port heads have to have rec port intakes unless you use adapter plates. ls6 intake wont work on rect port heads.
For car style and rec port heads you are stuck with ls3 intake or fast102 pretty much besides chinese sheet metal or fabbd intakes. Msd doesnt make the airforce for ls3.
If you can run a taller intake, youve got a bunch of cast alum intakes, Chinese sheet metal and l92 truck. Thats it.
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If you are staying fuel injected, I would try to find a nice LS3 intake. They work very well.

I will give you a couple options for an aggressive street setup:

Assuming this is a stock bottom end 6 liter or 6.2 with rectangle port heads, LS3 intake, headers and good flowing exhaust:

Titan 3 LS3 camshaft:
http://store.cammotion.com/titan-3-ls3-camshaft
3000-3800 stall converter with 3.42-4.10 gears
or manual transmission with 3.73-4.10 gears
Heads can be milled up to .015" if you choose
Has a hotrod type idle with moderate lope or chop
The is an aggressive street camshaft

Titan King LS3:
http://store.cammotion.com/titan-kin...-port-camshaft
3500-4400 stall converter with 3.73-4.30 gears
or manual transmission with 4.10-4.56 gears
Do not mill the heads more than .005"
Has a hotrod type idle with moderate to heavy lope or chop
This is a street/strip camshaft
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
They are chinese made. even the holley "sniper" ones. chinese. so make your determination based off that. we sell a few of the holley but they are more high rpm stuff and not really intended for street duty.
So exactly what are we to make our determination on, based on what?
Not sure what you are saying would you please explain.
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Don't buy them Slogo. They're Chinese, fercryin'outloud! You've said yourself how lousy their stuff is.... What else do you need to know, based on your previous statements?
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my2ct. I am doing a LQ4 / LS3 top end . I purchased a 00 LQ4 ( long crank flange cannot use it with my 4L60E without a custom converter) . so I changed my crank to a short flange ie LQ9.I will have my 821's decked at .020'' with .030'' bore flat tops and land around 11.0-11.1 static. Using the asa hi-lift cam /kit , which I purchased EVERY thing , crank included from the WS6store. similar builds seem to be around 42x- 45x ish rwhp. I use a PSI wiring harness / 411 PCM . hope this helps.
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FYI, I bought a LS3 intake with a aftermarket 92mm DBC throttle body here on the classifieds. will have to step up to 42 LB injectors at this level. I had to change my harness to EV1 connectors awhile back , LS3 are different just so you know.
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I picked up my LQ4 this week. It came out of a 2001 Denali. Gotta work a bit of OT, then I plan on doing .030 over flat tops and rods with my L92 heads, LS3 intake and the high lift hot cam from ws6store.com. I originally wanted about 500hp, but after thinking a bunch, I'm more interested in a well mannered street car that can get it on. It's going in a 64 Chevy II, so it should be fun in such a light car.

I didn't get a pcm or harness with the engine. Would an f- body harness and pcm work? Also, how about coils and injectors. I'm a gearhead, but an LS virgin. Got a lot to learn.

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As long as that Denali has a cable tb the fbody harness will work. You can use any coils you want.

If you are looking at a rebuild we have all the parts you need for the best price out there. Pistons, bearings, gaskets etc. Ready to go!
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I plan to hit you up soon. I was reading about replacing the connecting rods instead of machining the existing ones and installing arp bolts. Seems to be the way to go. Sounds like I'll be going that route. Just gotta get the funds together.
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The Scat 6.100 forged i beams are very popular. The bolts are quite a bit larger than the stock ls rod bolts also. $298 for them vs $70 for arp bolts, normally $10-15 per rod for hone and whatever else the machine shop wants to do...price adds up.
We carry 3 sets of the scat on hand all the time
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Probably a stupid question, but I'm trying to get my budget together. If I get the scat rods and some flat top pistons, do I need to get the rotating assembly balanced?
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Yes. Any time different parts with different weights are used, balance it!
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That's what i figured. Was hoping not, but kinda knew the answer. Thanks!


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