Big cube peeps, come inside.....
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So 8k plus good heads when its all said and done....as far as the engine is concerned anyways. I was just curious because I'm not sure if I want to go FI or NA when I start modding again this summer. You've got yourself a beast! I don't need to get that fast quite yet!
I have almost $18,000 in mine. Which includes two complete top ends from heads to intake and two sets of rods, one set of which was stolen from me by Joe Prince. Along with two timing chains and cams and bearings and oil pump.............What a lowlife.
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Originally Posted by DERTY
You can't go wrong either way. Just always plan on it costing a little more then what everyone tells you. It's all the little stuff that makes it expensive in the end.
Originally Posted by WS-Sick
If I can make around 480RWHP and run low 11's or high 10's after a stroker package, that may be the route I go this summer.
A big cube would be nice. Still trying to figure out what I can afford.
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Those with big cube aluminum blocks: Does this add any weight to the car?
i.e.:
stroker kit: more weight?
re-sleeved block (more bore): more weight?
Or, now that I think about it, do any of those actually subtract weight?
i.e.:
stroker kit: more weight?
re-sleeved block (more bore): more weight?
Or, now that I think about it, do any of those actually subtract weight?
Last edited by black_knight; Oct 21, 2004 at 09:57 AM.
The difference will really be seen when race cams are thrown in these motors. The development that is happening with the 346 crowd is aweseome and when this development transfers over the the big storke/bore guys it will really be aweseom.
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346 Development is signficantly cheaper under every category because you don't have thousands tied up in a block or a crank and you can abuse stock rods and pistons pretty regularly. Even if you just changed rods and pistsons a stock motor configuration will always be cheaper and therefore easier to develop on. That being said, if you don't want to spend a ton of money stick with the stock displacement. Because it can get expensive quickly. The rewards are well worth it though.
As far as strokers, the cranks can weigh a little more. The big bore blocks depend on weight (dry vs wet). But the weight is negligible, maybe no more then a trip to McDonalds on race day.
As far as strokers, the cranks can weigh a little more. The big bore blocks depend on weight (dry vs wet). But the weight is negligible, maybe no more then a trip to McDonalds on race day.
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Originally Posted by DERTY
You can't go wrong either way. Just always plan on it costing a little more then what everyone tells you. It's all the little stuff that makes it expensive in the end.
haha ditto, It always ends up being more than the advertised price.
Originally Posted by DERTY
346 Development is signficantly cheaper under every category because you don't have thousands tied up in a block or a crank and you can abuse stock rods and pistons pretty regularly. Even if you just changed rods and pistsons a stock motor configuration will always be cheaper and therefore easier to develop on. That being said, if you don't want to spend a ton of money stick with the stock displacement. Because it can get expensive quickly. The rewards are well worth it though.
As far as strokers, the cranks can weigh a little more. The big bore blocks depend on weight (dry vs wet). But the weight is negligible, maybe no more then a trip to McDonalds on race day.
As far as strokers, the cranks can weigh a little more. The big bore blocks depend on weight (dry vs wet). But the weight is negligible, maybe no more then a trip to McDonalds on race day.
Originally Posted by Dear John
More stroke=more torque. 
Originally Posted by DAPSUPRSLO
The difference will really be seen when race cams are thrown in these motors. The development that is happening with the 346 crowd is aweseome and when this development transfers over the the big storke/bore guys it will really be aweseom.
Originally Posted by CamTom12
Ok, that's what I thought. But then why do people bother with all-bore set-ups? Is it like free cubes with the same redline capabilities?
With increased bore and stroke you get the benefits of both.
Originally Posted by dug
Sounds like the big motors are like h/c 346 with a 100 shot all the time.
Originally Posted by 11 Bravo
And better drivability. I'm personally going to run a 200 shot on mine, for highway purposes only
Better driveability, man you just need to put a bigger cam in here. It'll fix that drivability problem and make you faster. If you aint starting at the 260 plus duration and 108 and lower lsa's then you will have excellent driveability with almost any cam choice smaller within reason (244/250 on a 102 lsa does not apply). One day I will have a 400 plus inch motor of my own. Wooohooo.