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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 10:27 AM
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I know stock vs stock the 243 is the superior head but my engine came with 706 non crack-tec heads and I'd like to use them if I could. My question is what performs better, a stock 243 or a professionally hand ported 862/706 because for the price of 243s I could have my 706s hand ported and flowed by a well known drag racer/engine builder in my area. I also know that I'm going to want to mill the 243s if I get them because my set up is a 5.3 with 4.8 flat tops and I want to stay around 10.5-1. Are 243s just such a superior head vs the 706 or could the 706 out perform the 243 with alittle work?
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With some work the 862/706 head will easily out perform the stock 243 head. I run PRC 5.3 (862) heads and for the price I'm very happy with their performance
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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 10:33 AM
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Look for 799's as they are identical, and came on every 5.3 truck engine since about '07. Prices should not be too bad, as common as they are. I'm surprised 243's haven't come down more in light of this.
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799 and 243 heads were used on all 2007.5-2013 4.8 and 5.3, as well as previous years but on certain ones.

Some Pick-A-Part/Pick-N-Pull Yards have great prices on parts. My local yard sells aluminum non-overhead cam heads for $44.00 ea. with a $10 Core. I can get a set of 243/799 heads any day of the week down there for $120 out the door without cores and $100 with cores. So if you would rather spend your money on 243 heads, check your local junkyard first.

In Stock Form, the Cathedral Port 243/799 are the best flowing GM Production heads for Sub 4.00" Bores in a N/A Setup, at least in my opinion. Above 4.00" Bores, 6.0L+, it can vary depending on your setup.
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Old Nov 29, 2017 | 08:44 PM
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I just saw a dyno video in which in stock form the 706 head beat stock 799 heads by 2 hp. But if you plan on getting them ported, I think the 799/243 head is a better choice since they have larger valves stock and can fit 2.02 valves.
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Apparently 706>243>241>317...

Factory Head Dyno Test
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I'd say hp gain was bump in compression not flow
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I'd say hp gain was bump in compression not flow
Agreed. Makes a good case against shopping for heads on flow numbers alone though. The OP has a similar application so it's certainly applicable to his situation.
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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 08:32 AM
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Very interesting. I didn't realize the 706 head was stronger out of the box like that. I assume the same can be said for the 862 casting as well?
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706/862 casting are the same spec.
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Originally Posted by Loganglenn
I know stock vs stock the 243 is the superior head but my engine came with 706 non crack-tec heads and I'd like to use them if I could. My question is what performs better, a stock 243 or a professionally hand ported 862/706 because for the price of 243s I could have my 706s hand ported and flowed by a well known drag racer/engine builder in my area. I also know that I'm going to want to mill the 243s if I get them because my set up is a 5.3 with 4.8 flat tops and I want to stay around 10.5-1. Are 243s just such a superior head vs the 706 or could the 706 out perform the 243 with alittle work?
Yours ported will do better. Sounds like the dude is charging 400-500 ish? If so I need his info.

Originally Posted by 07NBSChevy
799 and 243 heads were used on all 2007.5-2013 4.8 and 5.3, as well as previous years but on certain ones.

Some Pick-A-Part/Pick-N-Pull Yards have great prices on parts. My local yard sells aluminum non-overhead cam heads for $44.00 ea. with a $10 Core. I can get a set of 243/799 heads any day of the week down there for $120 out the door without cores and $100 with cores. So if you would rather spend your money on 243 heads, check your local junkyard first.

In Stock Form, the Cathedral Port 243/799 are the best flowing GM Production heads for Sub 4.00" Bores in a N/A Setup, at least in my opinion. Above 4.00" Bores, 6.0L+, it can vary depending on your setup.
Name of the yard?
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
With some work the 862/706 head will easily out perform the stock 243 head. I run PRC 5.3 (862) heads and for the price I'm very happy with their performance
Why did you go prc 5.3 vs prc 243
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Originally Posted by fastlt1
Why did you go prc 5.3 vs prc 243
Car came with the 5.3 heads when I bought it
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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KCS
Apparently 706>243>241>317...

Factory Head Dyno Test
I'm not ready to crown the 706 as king yet but in stock form it's hard to beat. If this was a 3.9 bore we would not even be talking about which is best. But this test does tell Alot about how important chamber size , shape, and valve size play. First the 317 has a huge disadvantage with it's wide chamber underhang and cc volume.The 241 has pretty good chamber width , but IMHO the 2" is a bit big on the smaller bore. If you look at the L83 , GM went to a 1.93" which probably is better match for the bore.
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Old Dec 4, 2017 | 08:33 AM
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I ran 10.78@128 with ported and milled 706 heads on a 5.3 with 12.2 compression on e85. Car weighs 2950 with me in it.
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Old Dec 5, 2017 | 03:48 PM
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if it is a 5.3 use the 243 heads
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After seeing Richards head shootout, I called my machinest. $400 gets my 862’s intake valve seats machined to accept the stock ls1 valves, and a 7 angle valve job. 11:1 unmilled on my ls1. That’s what’s I’m doing.
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Originally Posted by uraloser2me2
I ran 10.78@128 with ported and milled 706 heads on a 5.3 with 12.2 compression on e85. Car weighs 2950 with me in it.
Did you run Stock bottom end? Cant decide on milled 243s or 706s. Have stock 5.3
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Flip a coin. Either will work and once ported there is only going to be a couple hp difference between them with a moderately sized cam.
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Originally Posted by Dave12
Did you run Stock bottom end? Cant decide on milled 243s or 706s. Have stock 5.3
Lloyd Elliot Ported/Milled 862s with 2.00" intake valves on my LQ4 6.0L. Could not be happier.
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