head an cam suggestions for ls1
You can get those same results from a less expensive package and cnc stock castings. Hawks has a 450hp kit that makes legit 450 with tsp 5.3l cnc heads and out of box fast102. Id guess youd save about $1k or more. We have similar packages that will make as much or more power with either the tsp cnc heads or trick flows.
Our kits are 100% complete when you purchase from us. Every gasket, bolt, coupler will be there. No searching the net for the parts not included in the kit.
With so many options out there the only thing to limit you is budget really. Also the parts in the kits i mention are ready to ship so you dont have to wait weeks for your parts. If youre like the rest of us, waiting is ok but you'd rather have your parts asap so you can fawn over them until you start your project.
Our kits are 100% complete when you purchase from us. Every gasket, bolt, coupler will be there. No searching the net for the parts not included in the kit.
With so many options out there the only thing to limit you is budget really. Also the parts in the kits i mention are ready to ship so you dont have to wait weeks for your parts. If youre like the rest of us, waiting is ok but you'd rather have your parts asap so you can fawn over them until you start your project.
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The OE 5.3 CNC truck head is a nice budget Head, It will not do 480 RWHP
(Manual #s) with what most would consider a street friendly cam, let alone
Enough airflow for 530+ in a 408" or larger.
The TFS 245 is a great head, NOT fitting a 3.90" Bore!/current Engine.
The OP Wanted a head that would provide excellent results NOW,
and with a 408" potentially down the road.
I stand by my recommendation.
98CamaroPower, check out some of the Tony Mamo threads
Specifically re Customer service both Before & After the Sale,
and the the help he provides with i.e. PR Length, RR wipe
pattern etc., etc... DarthV8R would be a great one to start with.
My .02
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(Manual #s) with what most would consider a street friendly cam, let alone
Enough airflow for 530+ in a 408" or larger.
The TFS 245 is a great head, NOT fitting a 3.90" Bore!/current Engine.
The OP Wanted a head that would provide excellent results NOW,
and with a 408" potentially down the road.
I stand by my recommendation.
98CamaroPower, check out some of the Tony Mamo threads
Specifically re Customer service both Before & After the Sale,
and the the help he provides with i.e. PR Length, RR wipe
pattern etc., etc... DarthV8R would be a great one to start with.
My .02
Good Luck
The 220 as cast is more than ample head to get what he is looking for and Martin made plenty of power a few years ago with them and med cams plus you're still hundreds under a comparable other head and thats out of the box. Ive compared all the numbers too many times to count this year alone.
Tha hawks package is very popular and makes over 450 dyno proven also on many different setups. It is lacking a few pieces which we make up for and have a better price point on as well as a better designed cam. All those parts are available next week not a month+ from now. Would that be what your "NOW" means? Thats all out of box stuff also for the most part. With extra hand work and porting those parts would shine even more. The tfs220s would give him plenty of room to grow in the future also with cnc or hand work from any of a dozen companies out there.
He doesn't even need a 102 to make mid 400s happen really. People have done it with fast92s as well. That would cut down on cost even more while still providing a quality product and the power to compete with other more expensive packages.
Tha hawks package is very popular and makes over 450 dyno proven also on many different setups. It is lacking a few pieces which we make up for and have a better price point on as well as a better designed cam. All those parts are available next week not a month+ from now. Would that be what your "NOW" means? Thats all out of box stuff also for the most part. With extra hand work and porting those parts would shine even more. The tfs220s would give him plenty of room to grow in the future also with cnc or hand work from any of a dozen companies out there.
He doesn't even need a 102 to make mid 400s happen really. People have done it with fast92s as well. That would cut down on cost even more while still providing a quality product and the power to compete with other more expensive packages.
Also, home porting a 92 to get the most out of it is not hard at all. I spent a day with it, even port matched it to my heads and saned it down to 800 grit. What some people pay to port these things is crazy, but i am a big DIYer.
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ok i think i am going with ws6 store rpmspeed cam i was quoted an estimated 420rwhp with adding that cam to my current setup. i would assume thats about the best horsepower for the buck i can get. and for the whole kit under $600
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they also offer head+cam using trickflow heads estimated 450rwhp.. i think around $2500 bucks which is a great deal. I hope im not wrong for this decision but i think i may just go with the cam for now and save almost 2grand and be ok with 420rwhp until i learn more about heads. and the fact that i can gather up 600 bucks pretty quick haha
I put some TFS as cast 220's on a buddies formula with a SBE LS1 and a FAST 92 with a mild cam. Car had a 3600 stall, 4L60, and a 10 bolt. No a/c compressor and tubular front suspension, other than than that was full weight. Car went out and busted off a 6.7 first time out with a upper 1.5x 60ft (nothing stellar on the 60). Never heard what the dyno numbers were but that ET is impressive in my book. That's my $0.02 on the as cast 220 TFS and why I'd recommend them all day.
Not calling you a liar but that is hard to believe lol. That's like what a 10.60 1/4 mile? Impressive to say the least. My car is 3340# and has gone 7.2 with a 1.54 60ft. I would really like to try a set of these tfs220's
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It's was a sbe ls1 car at my closest quarter mile track which is Memphis years back. 2001 Z28 with a Turbo 400, MWC suspension, TFS 215sn and a custom cam from Martin when he was with Tick. Anyway that car ran 10.9s on motor with air/heat/radio etc.....
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However my cousins SS that was a LS1 stick car with a 8.8 and a cage, no ac and tubular front suspension with a MS3 and hand ported heads with a FAST intake ran 7.1 -7.3 with 1.55 60 ft times.. so an auto that's lighter, that spent less time shifting gears, with much better heads and a 10 bolt should go a couple tenths faster if not 4 or so, It did. So breaking it down that way I can see why the car was capable of doing what it did. But it's not often you see that simple of a combo ET that low.
Your car is right on par with most well running cammed cars/some heads cam cars.
It's all in the combo. I beat up on donkey dick cam cars with my no cam car several times and it was a full weight bolt on stalled auto.
I have nothing to prove it or numbers, but I feel like that FAST 92 in combo with the as cast 220's were making some magic happen, in other words, may have been better than the 102
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