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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 06:03 PM
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200k ls1
was this rust gunk clogging my system
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 06:14 PM
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What does the rest of the cooling system look like? Or what's left of it...
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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It looked like dog doo. Ran the prestone radiator flush a while back to flush the dexcool out, and no matter how many times I flushed it I'd get oil in my coolant, no coolant in my oil though. She's all apart for the winter for a full teardown, and get denmahfied
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 08:29 PM
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Mine looked the same at 194k.
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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Oil or tranny fluid?
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 09:21 PM
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If you still have the power steering cooler, delete it
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Old Nov 11, 2017 | 10:18 PM
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Looked like oil, no PS cooler here.
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Old Nov 12, 2017 | 11:58 AM
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Check coolant for exhaust gas.
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Old Nov 12, 2017 | 12:17 PM
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Check coolant for exhaust gas.
This is going to be pretty difficult with the engine disassembled.
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Looked like oil, no PS cooler here.
Good if you don’t have one. Everything you described and photographed is EXACTLY what you get when you don’t delete the PS cooler on a F body. The power steering fluid gets in the coolant through the cooler. Looks like diarrhea. Is very obviously oil, but no coolant getting into the oil. You’ve already got the motor out. If you’re gonna do a rebuild, have the block hot tanked.
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Old Nov 12, 2017 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Good if you don’t have one. Everything you described and photographed is EXACTLY what you get when you don’t delete the PS cooler on a F body. The power steering fluid gets in the coolant through the cooler. Looks like diarrhea. Is very obviously oil, but no coolant getting into the oil. You’ve already got the motor out. If you’re gonna do a rebuild, have the block hot tanked.


Definitely the plan on the hot tank , debris fell into my cylinders when pulling the heads.

Now just tear it all down , hot tank rebuild , fuel lines and Walbro 400 , 4l80 , and the 7876 Denmah
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Old Nov 12, 2017 | 07:30 PM
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Don't be so sure it was oil you were seeing, I just went through the same trouble with a neglected dexcrap system. The weird looking oily crap didn't stop until I cooked the living crap out of the system. I tried flushing it over and over and it never ran clean soooo I ran the engine at idle with the rad cap off until it boiled over. Unreal amount of crap cooked out and finally no more oily mess in the rad.

Dexcool can make a mess like no over, it should be banned from the industry. Problem is it makes these car companies big money because it doesn't tolerate neglect. You neglect a dexcool system and it runs low you can make a crazy mess very quickly. I had a 99 TA that had a small water pump gasket leak. Over a few weeks the system went acid and it ATE the rad cap rubber seal. Insane stuff.
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Old Nov 12, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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Note to self; NEVER allow Dexcool in ANY vehicle of mine...
GOOD heads-up! Thank you!
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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 03:08 AM
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Normal. all the composites look like that with mileage.
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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 06:39 AM
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I just saw the same thing. I blamed it on dexcool and the ps cooler that I deleted that had coolant in it.

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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
What does the rest of the cooling system look like? Or what's left of it...
Upon further inspection ...
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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 01:53 PM
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Any chance someone may have used that CNC block repair crap from the auto stores? That **** makes it fair amount of mess, too.
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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 04:13 PM
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Radiator trans cooler can leak oil into the coolant also. I personally prefer an external trans cooler only and to take the radiator cooler out of the trans cooling system by bypassing it.

I see that on head gaskets all the time (crud build up) don't get caught up in it.
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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 06:04 PM
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It's possible on the block repair crap from autozone, bought with 120k , now has 180k.

I bypassed the radiator and ran an external trans cooler.
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