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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mOtOrHeAd MiKe
So many folks get caught up with keeping up with the Jones' that they fail to realize just how good and flexible the small-valve heads are by production and aftermarket standards.

It is the same nonsense that sold ported FAST intakes, NW throttle bodies, bullshit MAFs, SLP smooth bellows, KOOKS headers, Comp's whiney cams and rapidly worn trunions, top secret cam specs... and so on. This site propogates vendor bias - but folks are waking up.

A sensible build around stock, or reworked stock parts, with a nice cam and affordable supporting mods - tuned and driven well - will be much more satisfying to the owner and their wallet. A fool and his money are easily separated.

If you have money to burn, or like carrying debt, keep buying into the hype. Because entry-level performance parts now exist that perform well if used properly.
Well said! I couldn't agree more!
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Old Jan 15, 2018 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mOtOrHeAd MiKe
So many folks get caught up with keeping up with the Jones' that they fail to realize just how good and flexible the small-valve heads are by production and aftermarket standards.

It is the same nonsense that sold ported FAST intakes, NW throttle bodies, bullshit MAFs, SLP smooth bellows, KOOKS headers, Comp's whiney cams and rapidly worn trunions, top secret cam specs... and so on. This site propogates vendor bias - but folks are waking up.

A sensible build around stock, or reworked stock parts, with a nice cam and affordable supporting mods - tuned and driven well - will be much more satisfying to the owner and their wallet. A fool and his money are easily separated.

If you have money to burn, or like carrying debt, keep buying into the hype. Because entry-level performance parts now exist that perform well if used properly.
In the words of E. Fritz Hollings " there's too much consuming going on out there "
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
If you're just wanting to bolt something on and that's that, then Yes, 243 and 799. If your engine is unmolested, a 99 Ls1 is most likely going to have a 853 on it
My 2002 ls1 has a 241
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 09:36 PM
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853 and 241 heads are about identical. Like 706/862, 243/799, etc. Just a different mfg. method.
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 01:09 AM
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Looks like bottom of the barrel for flow.

Flows are @500 then @600 lift

GM LS/VORTEC
Cathedral heads

5.3 truck #706/862?
61.2cc 220-230

LS1 #241/853?
67cc 230-235

6.0 truck #317 71.5cc 240-245
#799 64cc 245-250

LS2/LS6 #243/799?
64.5cc 250-260
All exhausts flow 175-200

Trick flow genX 215 cathedral 300@500 320@600

Trick flow genX 225 cathedral
315@500 340@600

Rec port heads
LSA 863
LY6
LS3 821 Hollow stem
L92/L99 823 & 5364
300@500 315@600
Exhaust 205 & 215

LS7 330@500 350-370@600
Exhaust 210-225
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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 11:34 AM
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Just by the TRick Flow Heads in the end after screwing around it will be cheaper and less headache.
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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink1171
Just buy the Trick Flow heads. In the end after screwing around it will be cheaper and less headache.
This is a very old thread on 862/706 heads. .
Trick Flow heads would be overkill here at a much higher cost, not cheaper.
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