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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 09:44 PM
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Default LS6 block is dead. Can a LQ9 be swapped?

My ls6 is dead and my machinist has a lq9 block. He thinks most everything will swap over with no mods. He thinks the knock sensors are in different locations and possibly the cam sensor and will need different head bolts. Are there any different issues known of?

(I will be getting different pistons and bored to match.)
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 10:35 PM
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Hope you don't mind an extra 100# on the front of your car.
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 11:11 PM
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What happened to your ls6?
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 04:01 AM
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No difference between the LS1 vs LQ9 when I switched, so I can't see why it would be different for the LS6
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 10:48 PM
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I didn't realize the lq was iron, that kills it.
My machinist said he found the next size up piston but is not sure if it will all clean up and recommended I look for another block.
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 11:47 PM
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bore it, it will be fine any pictures of damage what happened?
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 01:25 AM
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So what I'm hearing is that you have an opportunity to upgrade to a 4.11" bore...

https://dartonsleeves.com/mid_02.html
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 01:49 AM
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Can a ls2 block be used? Not sure of the differences, I'll use my stroker crank and new pistons I'm having a hard time finding a ls1/6 block.
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Originally Posted by Banshee Ben
Can a ls2 block be used? Not sure of the differences, I'll use my stroker crank and new pistons I'm having a hard time finding a ls1/6 block.
Tons of info alredy out there, if you just search for it.

LS2, LQ9, LM7...it doeent matter, pretty much any of the Gen 3 or 4 engines all swap in with minor work and sometimes some adapter harnesse.
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Seems a front cover. Cam sensor. Head bolts.knock sensors.vally cover. My only concern would be the new cam sensor and location, does the old computer use the same readings and timing intervals. Basically my only concern is it is it a plug and play with no changes to the computer programming
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Originally Posted by Banshee Ben
Seems a front cover. Cam sensor. Head bolts.knock sensors.vally cover. My only concern would be the new cam sensor and location, does the old computer use the same readings and timing intervals. Basically my only concern is it is it a plug and play with no changes to the computer programming
An LS2 would be great.

If you want complete plug and play and to not convert anything you'll need a gen 3 motor. That's gonna be an LS1 or LS6 if you want to stick with an aluminum motor. But converting isn't bad at all, and you're likely to find an LS2 for the same price as an LS1 or 6 and I would rather have the LS2 for the 4" bore.

Gen 3 motors have the cam sensor in the back, gen 4 it's in the front timing cover and reads the timing gear instead of reading off the back of the cam. Gen 3 knock sensors are in the valley cover under the intake and gen 4 they are on the sides of the block. It's not too bad converting if you find a gen 4 block for a good deal.

Plug and play conversion box for putting a gen 4 motor where a gen 3 used to be.
https://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L460065397.html

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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 01:01 PM
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sooo.... ill ask again how bad is the other block? Ive seen machine shops try and tell people there aluminum blocks are bad just so they can keep them.....
NOT saying this is the case as I have NO IDEA but....... id like to see the cylinder walls if I was you and what was the reason for a rebuild?
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 08:31 PM
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Also, if you're into road racing or track days, gen IV engines seem to need dry sumps to keep the oil pressure up in sustained turns.
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 01:44 PM
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The block is currently a 3.095 and has some good scratches in it. -22dished pistons. He found some pistons at 3.103 (i think) but was still not sure that would remove 100% of the flaws. I stripped the block and the scratches are there.
I've had low oil pressure for a while, added a lingenfelter oil pump but didn't help all that much. Engine is in a sand car so I'm sure it eats sand here and there.
End issue was a lost rod bearing
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All makes more sense now, would an extra 80lbs for the iron lq4/lq9 block make that much difference?
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
All makes more sense now, would an extra 80lbs for the iron lq4/lq9 block make that much difference?
I noticed no difference in general spirited street driving or 1/4 mile performance. For road course stuff it may make a slight difference but I can't say since I don't do that stuff
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 06:39 PM
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Block hangs off the back of the car and can swing you around, may not notice it much but there are thousands out there running the LS and I've yet to see one with an iron. I got lucky today and found a brand new ls6 block, random. Thanks for the info, I'll still look into a gen 4 swap for the next go round.
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 07:16 PM
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This is a Porsche swap? Not mentioned before....
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
This is a Porsche swap? Not mentioned before....
I believe it’s a sand buggy of some sort.
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Yea he said sand car, I’d love to see some pictures or video of it!
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