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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:00 AM
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I have an ls1 off my 99 transam guessing stock heads for the year. It has ls6 intake,mac mid length headders,torquer v2 cam. Gmmg exhaust,shitty tune.slp lid. Getting 243/799. I was thinking the v2 again because i like the power range but a friend of mine said to look into a hawks cam and make maybe 10 more hp? https://www.texas-speed.com/p-1149-texas-speed-torquer-v2-232234-600600-camshaft.aspx vs http://www.hawksmotorsports.com/hawks-instigator-240-244-608-596-112-2-lsa-camshaft/
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Why spend all that money and hassle for a couple more horsepower (maybe) when you already have a cam...and one that you like to boot?
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 09:13 AM
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I would recommend replacing the Mac mid length headers with some 1 7/8s longtubes and keep the Torquer V2.
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Cam is smoked. Along with a lifter
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:29 AM
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^ should had mentioned that in your original post lol.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:35 AM
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Well ya, should have.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:48 AM
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Yeah mentioning it would have helped just a little What's the rest of your build look like? Like mentioned above some 1 7/8" headers would be a solid move as well
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My build is not something i wanted to do now. The car went for oil pan gasket and the guy took off heads and here we are. Im more trying to get internals done since its out of the car. But everythin i have is from original post
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What trans and what gear? If it's an auto what stall?
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T56 with 3.73 gears
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 01:36 PM
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Yeah you might as well go with a more aggressive cam this time around then.
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Id like to start a poll for it but dont know how lol
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It really depends on what you want out of a setup. Also the goals and the drivability factor in as well. The Torquer V2 is a great all around cam in my opinion. I used to run it actually. Basically the bigger you go on the cam the more top end power it will make with a corresponding loss down low, and drivabily will suffer some too. It's all in what's right for you personally, and only you can answer that
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 03:11 PM
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It was my daily till i got a 2012 Silverado. But i dont take it out much and i never did any racing, just bang gears every once in a while. But i wouldnt mind to take it to track when its done. Afraid of rippin the rear out. It seems torquer makes good low range from 1800 to 6500? The lsa was 113 on this one. I liked the low end power cause id never scream in the highway
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If I were you I'd call places like Cam Motion, Texas Speed, etc. They will get you what you want
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What do you WANT out of the car? Driveability, weekend warrior, daily driver? I have a friend with a Tick SNS 3 cam and his wife drives the car to work a lot. Its a 01 SS 6spd car with the LS6 intake and full exhaust. Car runs LOW 12's 12'1s on street tires @118. Car pulls hard, sounds amazing and drives great with stock GTP (42#) injectors.

The stg II bumps down the operating range to 1800-6400
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BTR stage 3 would be comparable. Stage 2 for a DD.
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Originally Posted by 89_FIREFORM
I have an ls1 off my 99 transam guessing stock heads for the year. It has ls6 intake,mac mid length headders,torquer v2 cam. Gmmg exhaust,shitty tune.slp lid. Getting 243/799. I was thinking the v2 again because i like the power range but a friend of mine said to look into a hawks cam and make maybe 10 more hp? https://www.texas-speed.com/p-1149-t...-camshaft.aspx vs http://www.hawksmotorsports.com/hawk...-lsa-camshaft/

Thinking of going Hawks instigator cam on my ls1 has anybody ran heads with this cam? If so what power did you make?
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That Cam Motion 232 cam that made the same power as a bigger 236 cam would be a good choice. Summit has some nice cams as well.
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We don't know what happened to the previous cam but the heat treat on our Pro LS cams gives the lobe consistent hardness 360 degrees around the lobe because we do them in large production runs. Stage 4 8709R1 is a 237/246 113 + 3 and .625/.605. Overlap is 14 degrees It's designed to be the biggest cam one can put in without flycutting. SUM-8711R1 (stage 4 extra valve clearance version) is a 234//247 113.5 + 3.5 cam and we back up the intake closing point 3 degres to pick up midrange at the expense of the peak. Works well with non aftermarket intakes with smaller throttle bodies and non-ported heads that start to wheeze up top. It's also the one to use if you mill the heads .030 to pick up compression (very worth it for gains across the rpm span). It's a very powerful cam that people love and it gets the car down track. The next one down is the Stage 3 SUM-8710R1 230/242 113 + 3 .625/.605. That one in a LS3 is down about 6 horseepower at the peak compared to 8711R1 but it picks up 15 ft./lbs at 3500 and pretty much outpowers 8711R1 up to 6k and is very streetable. It's usally the one we like with a 24X computer because it's intake opening is a couple degrees later and overlaps drops 4 degrees and is quite a bit easier to tune to satisfaction. Agreed with Aaron that anytime you are getting up there in overlap, a long tube header produces bigger dividends.
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