Lifter preload delema
#26
Yeah, I screwed up somewhere. I have exceeded my capacity for number crunching for an entire year. Jarheads dont usially think this much, lol!
9.125 turns x .050 + 6.8" base length = 7.25625, -7.325 = .06875. So basically it would be .069 preload.
9.125 turns x .050 + 6.8" base length = 7.25625, -7.325 = .06875. So basically it would be .069 preload.
#30
The next step up from 7.325 is 7.35. That would add .025 to .069, which would put it at .094. I think thats too high. I would rather have it a little low than a little high i think.
#32
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That is not too high at all. LS7 lifters like a lot of preload coming around .200 travel...it's a spongy lifter. Most shoot for .070-.090. 7.325 will put you on the light end of acceptable. Try it and see how it ends up.
Last edited by kinglt-1; 08-01-2018 at 09:25 AM.
#34
I have been told it has .160, then .180, now .200! Which is the real number??
#35
Just got off the phone with comp. The ls7 lifters have between .160 and .166 cup travel. 7.300 would put me at .044 preload. 7.325 - .069, and 7.35 - .094. With a target of half or a little under half, he recomends definately going with the .069 preload. Lighter could cause valve train separation, and higher could cause lifter failure or lower rpm. So its settled! Thanks all for the help, and catching my fuzzy math! I will update the thread when i get it going and let everyone know how it works out.
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#36
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Comp is the last place I would call for information.One thing you are not accounting for is heat expansion which will cause about a .012 loss in preload. So you your .069 will be .057 when up to temp. This topic has been discussed a thousand times over the years here. I just googled "LS7 lifter plunger travel" and came up with pages of results. Here is one thread with info.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...066-091-a.html
another good read here.
https://gwatneyperformance.com/lifte...ont-hurt-will/
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...066-091-a.html
another good read here.
https://gwatneyperformance.com/lifte...ont-hurt-will/
#37
.080 is ALWAYS my target preload on LS7 lifters. I've never had an engine tick or sound like a sewing machine at this preload. Trust me, that sound is annoying.
Also,
What about your different sized banks? I may have read your original post wrong, you're not running two different head gaskets are you? Don't
You should be just fine running a 11/32" PR with a preload near or at .080" IMO. Again, IMO. Also, it's always a good idea to measure each and all 16 valves for the proper preload.
I've found many rebuilt engines with severe differences in between valves. Especially if the heads/valves have been worked on. It only takes one value with minimal preload to make noise.
Good Luck with your build!
Also,
What about your different sized banks? I may have read your original post wrong, you're not running two different head gaskets are you? Don't
You should be just fine running a 11/32" PR with a preload near or at .080" IMO. Again, IMO. Also, it's always a good idea to measure each and all 16 valves for the proper preload.
I've found many rebuilt engines with severe differences in between valves. Especially if the heads/valves have been worked on. It only takes one value with minimal preload to make noise.
Good Luck with your build!
#38
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Comp is the last place I would call for information.One thing you are not accounting for is heat expansion which will cause about a .012 loss in preload. So you your .069 will be .057 when up to temp. This topic has been discussed a thousand times over the years here. I just googled "LS7 lifter plunger travel" and came up with pages of results. Here is one thread with info.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...066-091-a.html
another good read here.
https://gwatneyperformance.com/lifte...ont-hurt-will/
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...066-091-a.html
another good read here.
https://gwatneyperformance.com/lifte...ont-hurt-will/
#39
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A block expanding would LOOSEN preload, not tighten it. The block/heads expand more than the pushrods, thereby increasing distance between cam and rocker arm.
#40
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i have seen the expansion discussed......i was thinking it still wouldn't change anything because it all is getting hot and expanding. but then i started thinking, an aluminum block will be a little warmer than the heads so the block may expand a little more than the heads. thus tightening up preload