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Old 10-19-2018, 10:59 AM
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Just wanted to post my impressions of the ws6store highlift hotcam.

My car is a 2000 T/A, auto, 2.73 rear end, GM55 converter, Pacesetter long tubes, tsp y pipe, SLP LM2 with a flo-pro twister muffler.

Running a pcmforless tune right now. tr6 plugs at .040. All I did was the cam/pac1218 springs. original 88k mile lifters, original water pump, original oil pump, original timing chain

Idle is pretty smooth. If you are right up on the car its hard to hear the cam, further away you can hear the lope of it more. Idle is probably around 750rpm. Every day it seems to drive better and better as it learns the tune. Once off idle its pretty much like a stock car, I havent beat on it too much but it makes more power forsure. I think this cam makes more hp/tq then a stock cam EVERYWHERE, so while its not a max hp cam, you dont lose any torque. So all of the things on my car are about the worst setup for a cam, the tight converter, the 2.73 gears but it drives great. Hopefully Ill hit the track soon and get a 12 second slip. Previous best with bolt ons was 13.2 @ 105 with a 2.0X 60'. I also have a line on a 3.73 rear end that may find its way into the car, the 2.73 rear end just kills street fun.

Anyways anyone considering a friendly street cam that gives you power, works well with stock everything, and has some good idle sound this one isnt bad! Pretty sure with a ls6 intake/bolt ons there are 6 speed cars around 390RWHP.
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Thank you very much for the writeup!
Its hard to get good feedback these days. Very detailed also!!
Good work and glad you enjoy it.
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Its kind of a write up.

Wanted to get to the track tonight to get a time but rain is coming in. I plan to run the car with only the cam upgrade done to see the gain from it. Next friday is the last test n tune I think

I dont regret it at all, dont wish I went bigger like people say. A smooth daily driver is a good one.
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I dig it! any track times or dynos etc let us know!

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I'd like to get a dyno but they want $650 here to dyno tune it. That seemed high to me. I'd like to think it's 400 to 425 crank hp now. Wheel, who knows, Probably 330ish.
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You should expect well over 350 to the wheels would be my guess. we have seen some pretty good numbers. esp when you use better heads like the 243 and mill em.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
You should expect well over 350 to the wheels would be my guess. we have seen some pretty good numbers. esp when you use better heads like the 243 and mill em.
Good numbers! A little less for 5.3's but would still be good.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
You should expect well over 350 to the wheels would be my guess. we have seen some pretty good numbers. esp when you use better heads like the 243 and mill em.
id be happy with 350 on stock heads!

Tell you what though, there's nothing like cruising at 80 with 2.73s. They just suck in the city.
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interested in seeing track times do you still have a ls1 intake? what track do you run at and what is your shift points set at?
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Yea still the 2000 ls1 intake.

I run at a track called Edgewater. It's about 600ft elevation. No idea what the tuner set shift points to, I said "around 6500".
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Originally Posted by trilkb
Yea still the 2000 ls1 intake.

I run at a track called Edgewater. It's about 600ft elevation. No idea what the tuner set shift points to, I said "around 6500".
You would gain a chunk by switching to an LS6 intake manifold.
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Originally Posted by trilkb
Yea still the 2000 ls1 intake.

I run at a track called Edgewater. It's about 600ft elevation. No idea what the tuner set shift points to, I said "around 6500".
my local track is maryland international raceway my 99 z28 auto 3.23 gears has run 12.15 with full bolt ons minus ls6 intake and a ram air setup. i really want to run the ws6 store hotcam but only track times i found are 6 speed cars looking forward to seeing what you run. if you put a good converter and stick tires your car could probably run high 11's
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Agree with most of the above. And get rid of the 2.73 gears. Was the car originally a 6? You can't be competitive with those gears. Stay between 3.70-90 for the street. 4.10s are too high for street use.

Also, another good point is add an LS6 intake. Nice low dollar HP increase. I never used an WS6 cam, but I am sure they know something about our cars for street use.
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Originally Posted by irocurpony8489
my local track is maryland international raceway my 99 z28 auto 3.23 gears has run 12.15 with full bolt ons minus ls6 intake and a ram air setup. i really want to run the ws6 store hotcam but only track times i found are 6 speed cars looking forward to seeing what you run. if you put a good converter and stick tires your car could probably run high 11's
that's a full second quicker then me with bolt ons lol. I've NEVER ran internet times at our track. Ours seems to be slow. Our weather maybe or gas blend.

I had a yank ss3600 but it was for a lt1/c5. The trailblazer converter may be 2500rpm and cost $130 new or so.

I actually just picked up a 3.73 rear end today. Just got home with it. Couldn't pass it up for $200. It's either 3.42 or 3.73, two wheel spin gets almost 4 yoke. Over 3.5 so probably 3.73.
I also have a dyno tune wet nitrous kit, may do a 75 shot. The ls6 intake is also on my list.

getting on the highway today i got on 2nd a bit more then usual and she pulls strong. If you're doing 12.15s bolt on only this cam won't hurt you. It gains power everywhere. When you get into the bolt only + cam decision and bring dyno numbers into it, you're really just sacrificing driveability for maybe 10 to 20 hp. I would put this cam in anything bolt on oy and feel good about it. Duration may be lower then some but .600 lift is more then you think. For $515 (cam and pac1218) plus gaskets it's an easy gain.

btw, cam shows up in a Texas speed box, and you know they are good.

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Rear has tubular lcas also, good snag
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Yes! I wanted those anyways so I was happy lol. Hopefully they fit. It was in a 3rd gen so hopefully they work for me. It's a 3channel but ill put my axles in it once I'm ready. Thinking I'll run it as is to make sure it's healthy then swap in my axles if it's all good.

I do want to run with 2.73s to see gain from the cam.
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Originally Posted by trilkb
that's a full second quicker then me with bolt ons lol. I've NEVER ran internet times at our track. Ours seems to be slow. Our weather maybe or gas blend.

I had a yank ss3600 but it was for a lt1/c5. The trailblazer converter may be 2500rpm and cost $130 new or so.

I actually just picked up a 3.73 rear end today. Just got home with it. Couldn't pass it up for $200. It's either 3.42 or 3.73, two wheel spin gets almost 4 yoke. Over 3.5 so probably 3.73.
I also have a dyno tune wet nitrous kit, may do a 75 shot. The ls6 intake is also on my list.

getting on the highway today i got on 2nd a bit more then usual and she pulls strong. If you're doing 12.15s bolt on only this cam won't hurt you. It gains power everywhere. When you get into the bolt only + cam decision and bring dyno numbers into it, you're really just sacrificing driveability for maybe 10 to 20 hp. I would put this cam in anything bolt on oy and feel good about it. Duration may be lower then some but .600 lift is more then you think. For $515 (cam and pac1218) plus gaskets it's an easy gain.

btw, cam shows up in a Texas speed box, and you know they are good.
i think my fti 4000 stall and race star drag radial/ skinny combo has a lot to do with my times. i had a 2001 z28 with the same setup except i had a ssra on it ran 11.92. do you have any videos of it idling? im just looking for the most power for 6400rpm shift points and easy on my 140k motor while having some lope too.
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The lope is all in the tune really.
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https://youtu.be/bGYFkShGr18

not my car but it has a good idle sound. You can tell it's got a cam but it's not in your face about it.
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Nice going on the rear end! For that kind of coin you can afford to check thru it and replace bearings/seals, etc. for peace of mind(a good thing to keep, lol).



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