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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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Hey everyone. I'm finally in the clear to start my build. What I have is an iron gen 3 -5.3 block that will be torn down , machined to ls1 specs,and rebuilt by a good friend of mine.

My question is, has anyone tried those trickflow top end kits for ls1. They have a 480hp, 500hp, and 515hp kit I believe. Kit includes heads, cam, pushrods, roller rockers, bolts, gaskets, etc....

The motor will go in either a 86 camaro or 81 c10. Not sure yet... It will be a street vehicle, not much track time. I really want something I can keep up with or leave the new camaros, challengers, etc.... (not the top of the line models)
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These kits were all developed on the dyno. The engine will definitely make what they say it will if not a little more even.
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These kits were all developed on the dyno. The engine will definitely make what they say it will if not a little more even.
Do the hp # include drivetrain loss?
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https://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp...m-ls1-package/

The cams seem pretty conservative. And I know this article is using carb intakes. One thing to note is that although they hit 500hp, they did this running no accessories, electric water pump, open headers, in a climate controlled room and dyno water cooloing the engine, meaning it probably doesnt get up to 150 degrees. Put that setup in a car and dyno rwhp and you're most likely gonna end up at around 400rwhp. Not very impressive.

The cam is mild though.
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Originally Posted by 86CAMARO400HP
Do the hp # include drivetrain loss?
Of course not, WAY to many variables for that
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Originally Posted by 86CAMARO400HP
Do the hp # include drivetrain loss?
Those are flywheel HP numbers not rear wheel HP numbers.
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Originally Posted by 86CAMARO400HP
Do the hp # include drivetrain loss?
We generally see about 12% loss on a Corvette Drivetrain and closer to 13% on a stick F-body on a typical Dynojet. Trucks it can be hard to tell based on the wide variety of wheel and tire options that can add weight quickly. Trickflow spends a lot of time looking at area under the curve, so their packages run better than the peak number would suggest.
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Originally Posted by AnotherWs6
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp...m-ls1-package/

The cams seem pretty conservative. And I know this article is using carb intakes. One thing to note is that although they hit 500hp, they did this running no accessories, electric water pump, open headers, in a climate controlled room and dyno water cooloing the engine, meaning it probably doesnt get up to 150 degrees. Put that setup in a car and dyno rwhp and you're most likely gonna end up at around 400rwhp. Not very impressive.

The cam is mild though.
yea, thats right about no accessories, climate control, etc... but 400 rwhp is around 460-475 hp estimate?
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Originally Posted by 86CAMARO400HP
yea, thats right about no accessories, climate control, etc... but 400 rwhp is around 460-475 hp estimate?
The 500hp package would make about 435 to the wheels with a decent exhaust system on it.
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The 500hp package would make about 435 to the wheels with a decent exhaust system on it.
Ok gotcha. I probably would just go with a top end kit since it comes with matched/supporting needed parts.. thanks. I see summit has these kits too, so I will keep that in mind
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Glad we could help. You're really going to like how the package performs. It will transform your car.
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I purchased the Trickflow top end kit for my LS2 through Summit, I assume it would be similar to the LS1. Been very happy with them so far. They dyno told me 452hp at the wheels. I have about 5000 miles on the assembly so far. No issues, no drama really. The only issue I had was the Harlan rockers that were apart of the assembly had a slight touch condition on 3-4 of the rockers with the stock valve covers. After a little clearancing of the valve covers, all seems to be good now. I recommend the kit.
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