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madmike9396 Jul 11, 2020 08:14 PM

*Cam opinion's and advice*
 
2001 TA
Plans for the car. (Weekend warrior)
Full weight and AC
Rear will be a quick performance 9" 390s
Transmission will be performabuilt lvl 2 with a PT4000 Yank converter.
Fast 92 Intake
Stock bottom end 68k Got a deal in some Advanced induction 241s non high compression, so I will be using those. Manley stock valves and 660 lift springs.
I am wondering what cam will work best with those heads ?
I have been looking heavily at the btr stg 4 na cam.
I do not want to fly cut the pistons.
just trying to see what options are out there and if I'm over looking a better cam choice.

madmike9396 Jul 11, 2020 08:34 PM

The heads are the 219cc 241s

NAVYBLUE210 Jul 11, 2020 08:59 PM

My .02 Cam Motion LS1 Titan 4 227/232 113+3 or Titan 5 232/238 113+3, The BTR Stage 4 233/247 needs more
Compression Ideally 11.3:1+ and 7000+ RPM & FAST 102/102 to maximize.
I would choose the Titan 4 first then Titan 5 before the BTR 4 with your combo and goals.

madmike9396 Jul 11, 2020 09:18 PM

Thank you for your input. I will look into those 👍🏼



Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE210 (Post 20268385)
My .02 Cam Motion LS1 Titan 4 227/232 113+3 or Titan 5 232/238 113+3, The BTR Stage 4 233/247 needs more
Compression Ideally 11.3:1+ and 7000+ RPM & FAST 102/102 to maximize.
I would choose the Titan 4 first then Titan 5 before the BTR 4 with your combo and goals.


Tuskyz28 Jul 11, 2020 10:15 PM

BTR cam has been 10s in the quarter mile numerous times over and over with several heads that's on the market. If you was building a daily driver I would go with a smaller cam but weekend warrior you looking to cut some throats at the track :D

Darth_V8r Jul 11, 2020 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
BTR cam has been 10s in the quarter mile numerous times over and over with several heads that's on the market. If you was building a daily driver I would go with a smaller cam but weekend warrior you looking to cut some throats at the track :D

Said he does not want to fly cut. That kinda limits the radicalizing of the cam

jhshnh Jul 12, 2020 01:24 AM

Sometimes the best cam isn’t always the biggest cam you can stuff in there, especially in a sbe.

Bspeck82 Jul 12, 2020 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by madmike9396 (Post 20268372)
2001 TA
Plans for the car. (Weekend warrior)
Full weight and AC
Rear will be a quick performance 9" 390s
Transmission will be performabuilt lvl 2 with a PT4000 Yank converter.
Fast 92 Intake
Stock bottom end 68k Got a deal in some Advanced induction 241s non high compression, so I will be using those. Manley stock valves and 660 lift springs.
I am wondering what cam will work best with those heads ?
I have been looking heavily at the btr stg 4 na cam.
I do not want to fly cut the pistons.
just trying to see what options are out there and if I'm over looking a better cam choice.

Way too big. Will drive like garbage. I'd get this https://cammotion.com/camshafts/tita...227-232-113-4/

madmike9396 Jul 12, 2020 07:12 AM

I tried to contact AI to see what cam would work best with these heads but they only do email and I haven't heard anything.
I might run a Fast 102 just depends on which ever I catch a deal on. Will end up running the Speed engineering 1 7/8 long tubes and TD exhaust. Has 1 3/4 LT headers currently.

far as driveability that 4k stall should soak up any bucking or surge. But isnt that mostly in the tune ?
we have a good local tuner so tune is no issue.

If I had to say max effort was 10 and driveability was 1 I'd be shooting for a 7

my last car had a F14 standard version which I think was 232/234 598.598. 112. And that drove fine with the FTI 4k stall I had.

Thank you guys for throwing out advice and options. I'm looking at that titan 4 but it dont give a rpm window. Does anyone know that rpm range ?

madmike9396 Jul 12, 2020 07:44 AM

The 241s have Manley 2.00 intake and 1.55 exhaust valves 66cc
Int _ exh
0.100. 65.6 _ 54.1
0.200 143.5 - 101.2
0.300 208.1 _ 144.1
0.400 251.2 _ 173.7
0.500 270.7 _ 197.5
0.600 284.9 _ 209.5
0.650 285.8 _ 211.8
0.700. 287.2 _ 215.2

sxc Z28 Jul 12, 2020 08:42 AM

Titan4 will carry to 7000 with your intake setup. I like the Titan5 for your setup or something custom between the two. Like others have said with the btr stage 4 you’re going to need more cr, more rpm, and more gear to utilize its 16.5degrees of overlap.

Tuskyz28 Jul 12, 2020 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bspeck82 (Post 20268447)
Way too big. Will drive like garbage. I'd get this https://cammotion.com/camshafts/tita...227-232-113-4/

A small cam with a :turd: tune will drive like garbage.

SLP IROC-Z Jul 12, 2020 09:34 AM

I say sell those heads and pick up a set of TFS 220 as casts from btr with a smaller chamber. The 220s will have way more ptv and compression opening up more options for bigger cams, not to mention they flow better

madmike9396 Jul 12, 2020 05:38 PM

What would a set of those run ? I dont know but I wouldn't imagine the gains being tremendous over the 241s. If we were talking 50 more hp I'd be interested. If were talking 10 or 15 not really worth it imo





Originally Posted by SLP IROC-Z (Post 20268498)
I say sell those heads and pick up a set of TFS 220 as casts from btr with a smaller chamber. The 220s will have way more ptv and compression opening up more options for bigger cams, not to mention they flow better


SLP IROC-Z Jul 12, 2020 05:50 PM

I paid under 1700 for mine from btr with ferrea valves and powder metal guides no springs and the milled them for free.

bigbomber5 Jul 13, 2020 07:16 AM

I think there are some brand new Fast 102's for sale right now in the marketplace. Good prices too :)

madmike9396 Jul 13, 2020 10:54 AM

So I contacted Cam motion and they reccomend me run the King Titan cam. What are some of yalls thoughts on that ?

Bspeck82 Jul 13, 2020 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by madmike9396 (Post 20268925)
So I contacted Cam motion and they reccomend me run the King Titan cam. What are some of yalls thoughts on that ?

what did you tell them you wanted out of the car

madmike9396 Jul 13, 2020 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by bigbomber5 (Post 20268834)
I think there are some brand new Fast 102's for sale right now in the marketplace. Good prices too :)

Thanks for the heads up 👍🏼

madmike9396 Jul 13, 2020 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Bspeck82 (Post 20268927)
what did you tell them you wanted out of the car

Weekend warrior. Same thing I said here.


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