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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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That's cool.

Now hurry up and send the two motors out here to Phx, az.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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Given a 15% loss I would guess/hope I am right around 500 hp to the tire. CAT if you want pm me your address and I'll send you a mag.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Mike, are you going to autograph it??

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Mike K. showed me the mag. The mags are protected by his dogs.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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hmmmm autographing why not, maybe I can make some cash back that way


For those that did not see my other threads here is the movie of the first time I started up the motor in my car as well as some pics

have to cut and paste below links to work,,, should work without adding www or anythting just cut and paste into a new IE window
(not sure why it will not post any other way)

Movie link

angelfire.com/falcon/99frc/videos/Mikes4081stStart.wmv


pics

angelfire.com/falcon/99frc/images/APE1.jpg



and here is a thread with alot of my home grown pictures

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/173642-pics-my-ape-motor.html


Here is a kill video as well of me vs a head/cam SS

Right click and Save as

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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I saw this as well and am impressed. I wonder what this would do with a set of AFR 225 heads, Fast 90MM or LS2 intake, and maybe a larger cam? The cam did seem a bit small but that could be me. Also would this be available with the Aluminum 6.0 truck block?

Starting to think over winter projects.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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There is an aluminum 6.0 truck block available? You got my attention. An aluminum 408 would be awesome!
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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No not yet however the LS2 is a aluminum 6.0 block, and is a 4.0 bore and 3.622 stroke I believe.
408 inches just became a little lighter, about 95 lbs infact.
They say the LS2 is lighter than the LS1 block.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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I was reading somewhere that the 04 and newer truck blocks are aluminum. Was it a dream?
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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Well you might see what this combo does with a LSX 90mm intake and throttle body. As soon as the aluminum blocks are available we will start making them 408's! The cam could be bigger but Mike wanted to have good driving manners as well as power. This car was driven from Florida to Michigan by Mike. I think that says alot about the cam and it's drivabilty.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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What would an aluminum block fast or LS2 combo cost with your heads and/or AFR 225?

Need to figure out how many pennies to save.

Thanks.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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Good question. That is exactly what I have in mind...

Originally Posted by Steve Burger
What would an aluminum block fast or LS2 combo cost with your heads and/or AFR 225?

Need to figure out how many pennies to save.

Thanks.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
Good job on the engine, same shop I am going to have do mine.

You can support a fellow LS1Techie and Troop and someone can send me a copy since they really dont stock those over here right now in the next 9mo's I will be here...

Mike K. Have fun with that puppy and details on driveability please. Pics nice to, even though they all look the same sometimes.
Charlie,
PM me your address over therer and I will ensure you get one.
Todd
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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Great article. I love that video too Mike. Very nice car...
Killruss's car used to be belong to my buddy UnbelievableLS1. I installed the heads/cam, headers, clutch hydraulics and much more on that car, with a very small amount of help from UnB...heehehehe. These 402/408's area a blast on the street. I just added 4.11 gears to mine..man this thing is silly fun.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Congrats guys!

Mike, I think 15% drivetrain loss through a 12 bolt with high gears is too low. It should be closer to 16.5-17%. My guess is about 490rwhp based on 590hp at the motor.
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