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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 11:22 AM
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With tuning you can make it drive as bad as you want it to and create whatever stage XYZ cam that you want.

haha This or lack of tuning!
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 01:58 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 05:28 PM
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If you want to hang with the newer cars and get the most out of your car the first question is your 02 TA an automatic or a stick?

A high quality torque converter (Vigilante, Yank, Circle D) will do more for an automatic transmission 02 TA than a cam swap.

Given the car has a 6.0, headers, cam of some sort & was tuned, that should make a very good starting point. How are the tires on the car? Good tires are as much safety as performance. Check the date codes, check for cracks & condition etc.

Can you share a few pictures of your 02 TA with us?
Yessir here are a few of when I got the gaskets replaced and just a whole picture. My transmission is automatic and I just replaced the tires with 295 continentals.





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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 05:31 PM
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Here's your stage IV Specs from their page
yes that’s the exact one I was looking at. What pushrods lengths do I get?
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Sweet looking T/A, like the wheels and 295's!

FWIW - 233/248 111.5 LSA cam has 17.5 degrees of overlap. That's pretty rough driveability wise by many peoples standards with a stock driveline. Not talking about inexperienced folks that have never had a hot rod.

Definitely need an aftermarket torque converter for you to get the benefits of that cam. Something like a Yank 3600SS or Vigilante 3,500 and 3.42's or 3.73's would probably work pretty well.

Does miles per gallon matter?
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Sweet looking T/A, like the wheels and 295's!

FWIW - 233/248 111.5 LSA cam has 17.5 degrees of overlap. That's pretty rough driveability wise by many peoples standards with a stock driveline. Not talking about inexperienced folks that have never had a hot rod.

Definitely need an aftermarket torque converter for you to get the benefits of that cam. Something like a Yank 3600SS or Vigilante 3,500 and 3.42's or 3.73's would probably work pretty well.

Does miles per gallon matter?
appreciate it sir! I looked up that cam and turns out it’s the exact same as the btr stage 4. When I click on the kit it asks about pushrods too and gives me a lot of options. Do I get new pushrods as well?
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Old Feb 17, 2022 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmytorres113
appreciate it sir! I looked up that cam and turns out it’s the exact same as the btr stage 4. When I click on the kit it asks about pushrods too and gives me a lot of options. Do I get new pushrods as well?
I see you have asked several times about pushrods. You probably will need new rods. You would do best to install the cam and then measure. If you are planning to just guess at it and hope for the best, 5/16 x .080 x 7.400" comp pushrods are a good guess.
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 02:03 AM
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If heads haven't been machined, 7.4's are probably what you need for pushrods
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I have a 2002 Pontiac trans am and recently found out that it has a 6.0 in it. I’m pretty sure it is a lq4 or lq9. it’s already cammed but it’s not enough for me. I want to replace the cam myself but I do not understand any of the terminology of it. I’m thinking of replacing it with a stage 4 cam but I have no idea what to look for. The engine is also running with 799 heads. Can anyone tell me which cam to get that is a stage 4 and the pushrods and springs I need as well? Please and thank you!!
Just ditch the LS based bullshit. Nobody has ever made power with that crap. You need a 4 rotor Wankel for real power. The bonus is that those don't need cams, so you will not have to bother us with stupid ******* questions like this ever again. Or you could do some research. Whatever you think is best.
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Just ditch the LS based bullshit. Nobody has ever made power with that crap. You need a 4 rotor Wankel for real power. The bonus is that those don't need cams, so you will not have to bother us with stupid ******* questions like this ever again. Or you could do some research. Whatever you think is best.
Ummm. whaaatt? lol Rotary swap firebird, lol even the rx7 guys ls swap haha, but on that note isn't he currently doing the research
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 02:49 AM
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Ummm. whaaatt? lol Rotary swap firebird, lol even the rx7 guys ls swap haha, but on that note isn't he currently doing the research
When your buzz wears off you will understand the sarcasm. You "almost" got it now.
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 02:51 AM
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When your buzz wears off you will understand the sarcasm. You "almost" got it now.
No I got it hence my lols, just it came from. left field like, it's too late for that stuff I'm barely awake haha
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No I got it hence my lols, just it came from. left field like, it's too late for that stuff I'm barely awake haha
On the other hand, can you imagine a 4 rotor wankel at about 60 or 70lbs of boost in almost any rear wheel drive car? Total smackdown until you get charged with murder when the apex seals fly threw the loser's forehead.
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 10:15 AM
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And "I" get spanked here for sarcasm and (maybe?) rudeness... LOL
That is some seriously funny ****, Gametech....
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Old Feb 19, 2022 | 10:37 AM
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And "I" get spanked here for sarcasm and (maybe?) rudeness... LOL
That is some seriously funny ****, Gametech....
You're allowed to be sarcastic and rude when you add original technical content. 😝😂.....kidding!!!
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
You're allowed to be sarcastic and rude when you add original technical content. 😝😂.....kidding!!!
OK, I guess there IS that..... LOL
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I'm with Darth on the whole 'Stage' BS!!! OP would be WAY ahead of the game learning what individual specs mean. Stages are for actors, NOT cams.....
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Originally Posted by jimmytorres113
appreciate it sir! I looked up that cam and turns out it’s the exact same as the btr stage 4. When I click on the kit it asks about pushrods too and gives me a lot of options. Do I get new pushrods as well?
On push rods, I'd wait and measure before buying. It can vary.

You've completely missed the point. I used the BTR stage 4 cam specs to calculate the over lap so you could see its has 17.5 degrees of overlap which is pretty rowdy to deal with in a driver. Probably want to see, hopefully ride in a car in real life with a similar cam before committing.

If I was going to use a very aggressive cam with ~17 degrees of over lap. I like this one:

Tick Performance "SNS" torqueMAX Stage 3 Camshaft for LS1 & LS6 Engines
Standard Lobes: 235/243 | .630"/.610" | LSA111+2
Designed for: LS1, LS6, LQ4 and LQ9 Engines (325-364ci) with Cathedral Port Heads (as they're equipped with stock)
Basic Operating RPM Range: 2500-7000
Expected Horsepower Gains: 50-60RWHP over the stock camshaft in a well-optimized setup
Stall Converter Required: Yes, 3600+RPM
Rear Gear Upgrade Required: Suggested for maximum performance (3.73+ for manual transmissions and automatic)
Works Well with Nitrous: Yes (shot size less than 200)
Will Pass Most Smog Emissions: No

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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
With tuning you can make it drive as bad as you want it to and create whatever stage XYZ cam that you want.
Originally Posted by baalic
haha This or lack of tuning!
So much this^!! I took out Summits Stage 1 "ghost cam" 222/233 on a 115 and installed a custom (call it "stage 5") 250/259 on a 112 and after a few mins of keyboarding they cruise the same. The bigger cam performs better all around, so to me the "stage" means nothing if it suits the overall setup and you know how to tune it to work properly.
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Check the current cam's valve events with a degree wheel while it's still in the engine; to better understand the operating range and part throttle/WOT operating characteristics.
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