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Old 07-26-2004, 07:25 PM
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Great numbers Trevor. Can't wait till that cam arrives at my door step. Hopefully it will get to my house on Wed. Then let Jason tune my baby. I'm hoping for 420rwhp with this cam in my M6.
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Those are awesome #'s!! That cam must pull unbelievable on the street. Way to go guys at TSP!!!!
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Any M6 results yet? Im considering a bigger cam.
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yes m6 results plz *oliver twist* "ide like some moh plz"
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
no offense but that would be pointless.
Not sure if this applies to verts but you may want to look at this new rule
http://www.nhra.com/2004/news/june/062202.html
I do not think it applies for him. He will be modded. If any power adders or equipment is added then you fall under E.T. vehicle. This would requir him to have the 6 point.
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Trevor/Jason, any plans to test it setup with a set of say, AFR Mongoose heads, or any nicely ported ones? Hope so, need to see that before I swap out again.
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Excellent Numbers guys!!

It does look alittle like the coverter locked itself up at 5900. Cant wait for the m6 numbers

Congrats
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Originally Posted by offaxis
It does look alittle like the coverter locked itself up at 5900.
The converter may couple-up around that point (i.e. move into a more efficent state), but it will not lock-up on its own.
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
The converter may couple-up around that point (i.e. move into a more efficent state), but it will not lock-up on its own.
Gotcha that would explain it.
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I'm confused about these numbers. Am I the only one? Cain are you confused?

Cain's car made 409 rwhp with the difference being 4.10 gears, Yank 4400, slightly bigger version of this cam and TSP/PP LS6 Style Race Heads.

So what gives here?
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer
I'm confused about these numbers. Am I the only one? Cain are you confused?

Cain's car made 409 rwhp with the difference being 4.10 gears, Yank 4400, slightly bigger version of this cam and TSP/PP LS6 Style Race Heads.

So what gives here?

The cams are virtually the same and has always done well since almost a year ago when we first spec'd one out. I wouldn't compare differences between two different brands unlocked converters/gears. Lynda's car did 310rwhp and went 11.5's, 409rwhp and did 10.8's...I don't think she's down on power at all.
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Probably a silly question, but will that cam be even close to making it thru emmissons with cats? Or is it like some of the other huge cams and need the wide open exhaust of no cats? I live in CT, and the emmissions program is starting up again soon, I'd love to slug in a nasty cam like that, but swapping it out and retuning the car every time it has to go thru is more of a pain than I wanna deal with.
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Originally Posted by -Joseph-
The cams are virtually the same and has always done well since almost a year ago when we first spec'd one out. I wouldn't compare differences between two different brands unlocked converters/gears. Lynda's car did 310rwhp and went 11.5's, 409rwhp and did 10.8's...I don't think she's down on power at all.
And the 10.8's were in hot humid air, I cant wait to get some great air like our SI 11.5 run, We will be flying!

SliverSurfer, I am not confused, we picked up 99rwhp from the Heads and Cam package, I see alot of M6's not even pick up that much. Oh and the dyno is just a tuning tool, our timeslips tell us what we want to hear. If we wanted we could go to MTI and pick up another 10-15 hp and probably lock the converter for 20 or more, but we are not into racing the dyno.
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Ummm OK, I'm glad you're not confused cause now I'm more confused.

So is the dyno a tuning tool or an advertising tool?

Is 402 hp cam only believable or are your numbers unbelievably low for running 122.91 mph in a 3350 lb car in +1700 DA?

You picked up 99 hp from H/C and 80+ can be gotten just from the cam.

So once again, what gives?
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Back on topic guys, I need some legit info on this cam. Trevor, if you could reply to my first post regarding this cam, that would be great.
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i would like to know the A/F on these dyno runs
i think those are impressive numbers but i would like to know if it was achieved at a safe A/F
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12.8-12.9 a/f.....It didn't need much tuning from where the 231/237 tune was at. The first pull before tuning was like 399.
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
Ummm OK, I'm glad you're not confused cause now I'm more confused.

So is the dyno a tuning tool or an advertising tool?

Is 402 hp cam only believable or are your numbers unbelievably low for running 122.91 mph in a 3350 lb car in +1700 DA?

You picked up 99 hp from H/C and 80+ can be gotten just from the cam.

So once again, what gives?

Its simple... You can't compare dyno numbers between two different unlocked converter cars, sure they are the same rated stall but from 2 different converter company's. A more precise test would be cam swap / dyno / then head swap / then dyno on the same car. 99rwhp from heads/cam swap is good, 80rwhp from cam only is awesome. Brian's car has always responded well to mods.
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
no offense but that would be pointless.
Not sure if this applies to verts but you may want to look at this new rule
http://www.nhra.com/2004/news/june/062202.html

Hey Clint do you think that we fall into that class?..

Matt.

Just tell them that the engine is loping because you got a bad plug wire...
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Originally Posted by -Joseph-
12.8-12.9 a/f.....It didn't need much tuning from where the 231/237 tune was at. The first pull before tuning was like 399.


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