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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 09:05 PM
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I have a new LS3 engine, and installed the Comp trunnion upgrade today. However, I noticed when done I didn't install all of the bearings with numbers facing outward. For the bearings put in backwards, can I just push them out like I did the OEM bearings, or are they compromised once they're installed?

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Old Sep 24, 2024 | 02:25 PM
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You're probably not going to get too many responses. Because a fairly significant number of us have used the Comp "upgrade" and found premature wear on the axles. So they aren't highly regarded. Mine were bad at only 20,000 miles, and the axles all (except 1) showed significant galling. I bought mine in 2014, so maybe they're better now. I can't answer your question, because I don't remember which way the numbers go, or even if it matters. I DO remember the unusual wear, however. Best of luck to you....

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Old Sep 24, 2024 | 04:49 PM
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Thanks - I figured it out. I just popped out the bearings which were reversed (numbers facing inward), reversed them so numbers face out, and then pressed them back in. I did see the negative hits on the Comp trunnion upgrade in a lot of places, so fingers crossed. If I want to buy a completely new set of arms with roller bearings, then what make/model has a great reputation? (i'm pushing 580-590 HP after headwork and stage 2 TSP cam).
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Originally Posted by lep
Thanks - I figured it out. I just popped out the bearings which were reversed (numbers facing inward), reversed them so numbers face out, and then pressed them back in. I did see the negative hits on the Comp trunnion upgrade in a lot of places, so fingers crossed. If I want to buy a completely new set of arms with roller bearings, then what make/model has a great reputation? (i'm pushing 580-590 HP after headwork and stage 2 TSP cam).
CHE or Manton make the best trunnion upgrades in my opinion.
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Old Sep 25, 2024 | 02:17 AM
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they WILL go bad....fix it now and save the hassle
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I have the latest BTR V2 trunnion setup on my LS7. In spot checking 2 rocker trunnions, they look good as new. I figure that they are more highly stressed in a 1.8:1 rocker setup (LS7) than with the 1.7:1 ratio rockers. If they're good on 1.8s, they should be fine with 1.7s. As someone posted, you may want to rethink running the Comp setup. BTR had an earlier trunnion upgrade (V1?) that BTR wasn't satisfied with, so they changed the axle material to a higher grade bearing steel. If Comp changed their design, I am not aware of any part# change. The fine metallic wear particles floating around inside an engine from galled axles can't be helping anything, for sure.
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Old Sep 25, 2024 | 09:34 AM
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Yeah, galled hardened steel particles floating around only decreases engine life.
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Old Sep 25, 2024 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by grinder11
You're probably not going to get too many responses. Because a fairly significant number of us have used the Comp "upgrade" and found premature wear on the axles. So they aren't highly regarded. Mine were bad at only 20,000 miles, and the axles all showed significant galling. I bought mine in 2014, so maybe they're better now. I can't answer your question, because I don't remember which way the numbers go, or even if it matters. I DO remember the unusual wear, however. Best of luck to you....
What was the cause of the failure?
Bad heat treatment ?
Inferior metalurgy?
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I don't know. But there were a lot of unhappy members here that had failures. They weren't catastrophic, but there were problems. Only one of my 16 axles looked as good as new. 15 of 16 were worn several thousandths on each bearing diameter. 93.75% failure rate is unacceptable.....
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It turned out to be poor hardening processes in the trunnions.. I was under the impression that Comp has since redesigned the units and the newer ones are good?? Not sure where I heard that actually. As stated, lots of powdered steel in the engine over time is hard on bearings.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
It turned out to be poor hardening processes in the trunnions.. I was under the impression that Comp has since redesigned the units and the newer ones are good?? .
I sure hope you're right, because I just put a set of those in an engine.

The date on the box is 3/07/24.

I'll keep an eye on them.
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Originally Posted by 84ta406
CHE or Manton make the best trunnion upgrades in my opinion.
If you had to pick one or the other, which?

I'm kinda leaning towards the CHE ones that have the oil groove in the bushing/shafts.
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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 01:16 PM
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BTR V2 here. Even though CHE trunnions are highly regarded, bronze wears out over time. I'd rather not have ANY metal floating about in my engine.
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CHE FTW. Otherwise you end up with this in your oil pan using needle bearing style.

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Or what you see flaking off of these Comp trunnions. These were purchased in 2015 and only had about 3,000 miles on them.
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx

Or what you see flaking off of these Comp trunnions. These were purchased in 2015 and only had about 3,000 miles on them.
Looks exactly like mine did. I have to believe Comp has redesigned them by now. At least I'd like to think so. Comp is a good company...
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These trunnion kits were failing like mad quite a few years ago when I was modding on the truck side. Trunnion and valve spring issues galore. Scared me away from Comp.
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