BTR canted valve heads
i disagree. 2g is very reasonable for a truly usa cast, cnc ported, fully assembled set of heads.
The only fully assembled heads under 2g are either china cast or at best usa as cast with no cnc porting.
Skilled usa labor isn’t cheap. In fact it’s very hard to even find enough skilled labor these days regardless how much you are willing to pay per hour.
Im a technician that works with machinists, cnc programmers, welders, etc. I know what rhe pay rates are and how hard it is to find good guys with these skills. We are always short handed working over time.
The only fully assembled heads under 2g are either china cast or at best usa as cast with no cnc porting.
Skilled usa labor isn’t cheap. In fact it’s very hard to even find enough skilled labor these days regardless how much you are willing to pay per hour.
Im a technician that works with machinists, cnc programmers, welders, etc. I know what rhe pay rates are and how hard it is to find good guys with these skills. We are always short handed working over time.
I haven’t even had an account on ls1gto for a long time. I’m sorry I offended you by voicing a different opinion.
When you said over 2g wouldn’t be reasonable for a USA casting fully asssmbled head I just wanted to point out there aren’t any USA casting fully assembled cnc ported head sets under 2g that I’m aware of. You can barely buy cnc ported oem castings fully assembled outright under 2g.
When you said over 2g wouldn’t be reasonable for a USA casting fully asssmbled head I just wanted to point out there aren’t any USA casting fully assembled cnc ported head sets under 2g that I’m aware of. You can barely buy cnc ported oem castings fully assembled outright under 2g.
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I agree with you. Our hobby isn't cheap. Hell, I spent almost $3,000 on an early set of AFR CNC'd 225 heads back when Tony was still at AFR. Fully assembled with upgraded Ferrea valves and 921 Comp dual valvesprings. $3,000 in 2005 (when I bought them) is a Helluva lot more than $3,000 now. I wasn't rich then, and I'm sure not now. If those BTR heads are between $3,500-$4,000, I think they'll sell a lot of them. At least, I hope they do.....
I think they are in a tough position since they seemed to be trying to bring a high quality usa casting head to the market at a price point much lower than others. After hearing their issues and how many $$$ they are into this thing it's a tough position to find a price point that makes sense for them.
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I agree with you. Our hobby isn't cheap. Hell, I spent almost $3,000 on an early set of AFR CNC'd 225 heads back when Tony was still at AFR. Fully assembled with upgraded Ferrea valves and 921 Comp dual valvesprings. $3,000 in 2005 (when I bought them) is a Helluva lot more than $3,000 now. I wasn't rich then, and I'm sure not now. If those BTR heads are between $3,500-$4,000, I think they'll sell a lot of them. At least, I hope they do.....
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interesting. I guess time will tell for pricing and more time will tell for sales. I am not expert on ls engines but dont many used ls engines go for less than 3500-4000? Can you still get new ls engines and what do they go for?
I haven’t heard anything about pricing. It will have to be competitive obviously with current equivalent flowing heads…canted valve or not. One can always grab a pull off set of LT heads and have a set of canted valve heads, but that’s not going to be much…if any…of an upgrade at all. Brian is designing and engineering canted valve heads for the LS platform from scratch with some of the smartest minds in cylinder head technology. It’s the biggest and most expensive endeavor any private shop owner can entail. He doesn’t have the bank account that GM does by any stretch…they have sunk over a billion into the new Gen6 platform coming up for instance.
Thats how I would do it if I were in Bryan’s shoes. Offering a porters casting in my eyes, leaves too much room for discrepancies in final numbers, from shop to shop. If anyone knows final port design, it’s Bryan. His port work back in the day was excellant. IDK…let’s wait and see how this all pans out first.
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Thats how I would do it if I were in Bryan’s shoes. Offering a porters casting in my eyes, leaves too much room for discrepancies in final numbers, from shop to shop. If anyone knows final port design, it’s Bryan. His port work back in the day was excellant. IDK…let’s wait and see how this all pans out first.