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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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I need some advice, I want to go as quick as possible cam only. I only drive the car on the weekend's & dyno #'s dont really matter to me. I want the best cam for the track. Currently my best 1/8 times are 8.0 in the Florida heat.. Thanks for help, again
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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TR227 (227/224 .569/.563 114 LSA): 2200-6800 RPM Power Band
TSP228R (228/224 .588"/.581", 112 LSA): 2100-6600 RPM Power Band

Hmm,
227 pros: 114 lsa for A4, less lift. cons: power band 200rpms higher
228R pros: useable power band cons:112 lsa for A4

I'd only steer towards the TR227 due to the 114 lsa for the A4, but nowadays' tuning makes 112 streetable for A4's, so it's a tossup.

It's a toss up, but you can't go wrong with either.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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I've been going back-n-forth on both of them, TSP is really easy to deal with. I was thinking about the (228/228 .588/.588, 112) but not sure if my vig 3200 & 3.42 gear would pair up good with it? The TR227 has been out for awhile now & with the 114 might be better with the auto like SouthFL.02.SS stated.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Don't let the 112 LSA scare you! I'm running our 231/231, .598"/.598", 112 LSA camshaft in my '02 SS A4 with absolutely no problems. I took my car out of town on business this past Tuesday, and it still averages 23.5 MPG doing 75 MPH on the highway with the a/c blowing cold. The tune will make or break the setup. So long as you have a good tune in the car you'll be just fine.

The 228R (228/228, .588"/.588", 112 LSA) was the second camshaft that we tried in my '02 SS. With stock cylinder heads, it ran a best of 11.41 @ 116.85 MPH on a 1.53 60'. The camshaft will consistently net 40-45 RWHP at peak and still make some great mid-range power. If you are a stickler for the 114 LSA, we can have one custom-ground for you with your desired LSA for no additional charge.

Feel free to give me a call or e-mail me at trevor@texas-speed.com if you have any other questions or concerns. I'll be glad to help you out!

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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Hey i don't mean to hijack the thead guys but i was just curious if a 228/228, .588"/.588", 112 LSA will work well with a cam only ls1 setup with an m6?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Yea, don't pick a cam just because it has a higher LSA. Get what you want. I am A4 with a slightly bigger cam on a 111+2. Has great manners Just bitchy at startup on cold days
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Yea, don't pick a cam just because it has a higher LSA. Get what you want. I am A4 with a slightly bigger cam on a 111+2. Has great manners Just bitchy at startup on cold days
...and even that's fix-able in the tune (if you know where to look).
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Yea, don't pick a cam just because it has a higher LSA. Get what you want. I am A4 with a slightly bigger cam on a 111+2. Has great manners Just bitchy at startup on cold days
mine is the same way..232/238 6xx 6xx 111+2 if its in the low 30's it still starts up but may die after a few minutes,but it will start right up after...This only happens if its in the low mid 30's temps..Dont drive it too much in winter so its not a concern,and mos times its in the 40's here so no big deal..Anyother time it fires up and drives,but if its in the 30's I really let it warm up and it drives fine and does not stall at all
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Originally Posted by SSpdDmon
...and even that's fix-able in the tune (if you know where to look).
To the OP sorry about the the HIJACK.....

Tell me My tuner is VERY well respected and touched up the cold start tune once and it got better but still is a little bitchy when it is cold out.

I always just attributed some of it to low IQ of my 98 PCM

PM me if you want.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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I dont mean to hijack the thread or anything.. just a quick question.. I've read a lot about cams but I just dont have any hands on experience with them especially a cam in a LS1 motor (i'm like the only guy in my area with a LS1) but I was wondering what cam you guys would suggest for an 02 ss m6 with a stock motor.. my plans as of now are to keep it a cam only car.. I drive it quite regularly so what i'm asking is what would be a streetable cam I could drive every day but still make some good power?
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 12:57 AM
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LOL

You guys aren't hijacking anything. As a matter of fact, I'm sure the original poster doesn't even remember typing this thread 4 years ago
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:21 AM
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LOL

You guys aren't hijacking anything. As a matter of fact, I'm sure the original poster doesn't even remember typing this thread 4 years ago
You beat me to it
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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Talk with the sponsors about a custom cam spec'd for what you have. Also Patrick G and Predator Z give very good cam advice for specific applications.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian
LOL

You guys aren't hijacking anything. As a matter of fact, I'm sure the original poster doesn't even remember typing this thread 4 years ago

Haha I never even noticed

I did get a PM on what to look at in my tune out of it though
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Haha I never even noticed

I did get a PM on what to look at in my tune out of it though

same here LOL!!

SOMbitch for what its worth I have a 98 too,so I know what you mean
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
Haha I never even noticed

I did get a PM on what to look at in my tune out of it though
If the Rockies were a little closer to Detroit - I'd fix it for ya...
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SSpdDmon
If the Rockies were a little closer to Detroit - I'd fix it for ya...

Thanks man I am sure you would. I hope to get it straightened out in the next month.
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same here LOL!!

SOMbitch for what its worth I have a 98 too,so I know what you mean
Yep, our PCM's are on the short bus
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