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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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This is the cam i'm thinking of going with and I have a few questions. I know this cam issue has been beat to death but i want some info on this specific cam if anyone has it installed.

How is the Idle?
What are are the gains in HP that were seen?
Is the dyno graph on the TR site accurate for similar installs?
Would this cam be ok for my 150 shot?

Any other info would be great. I would be installing new timing chain, oil pump, double springs and pushrods with this also. Thanks for the help in advance!
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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i think you want more exhaust than intake with nitrous and a higher lsa

oh yea and JRP will most likely say "search"
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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searching as we speak...but nothing yet on my application...i figured i would get yelled at! I dont use the bottle that often so that is not my main concern. but i do want the most power for bottle and no bottle.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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What's up..

I had the TR230/224 111LSA, but I had to get rid of it ( smog reasons). Overall it was a good cam with my setup.

It idled great. I loved the lope that it gave. My idle was set at 900. You definitely want this cam tuned right away. Some have said that you can go for a while without a tune, but my car fouled plugs every 3 days without a tune.

After the tune, the car ran great. Pulled like a raped ape all the way to redline and then some.

Feel free to pm me any questions you may have. Or instant message me or something..

TR230/224
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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since i had the tr230 i'll save you the search . its a good cam but wasnt fit to my liking, bought it when i was a cam newbie. heres an idle clip untuned. other tr230 owners said they had no problems untuned but my car was a ****** on stock tune. never had the cam in long enough to dyno it but top end pull was great. to me its a nice track cam, i'd pick the tr224 112 over the tr230 though it its primarily a daily driver as the 224 looses very little over the 230 and it only on the top end.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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oh yeah, its not an ideal n2o cam but it would work. my tr230 spec'd at (IIRC) 230.4/224.6 .578/.565 110.lsa
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oh yeah, its not an ideal n2o cam but it would work. my tr230 spec'd at (IIRC) 230.4/224.6 .578/.565 110.lsa
Thanks for not yelling at me JRP! What do you think the HP loss would be beween the two? I love a lope at idle and dont really drive the car long distance except to the track. I just want to get something that makes a shitload more power and i can drive on the street although srteetability is not my first concern. And something that will work ok with my N02. Thanks for your help!!
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jason posted this back in the day:

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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jason posted this back in the day:

not that much difference in HP. Is there any difference in the idle in the 3?
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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the tr 224 will idle nicer. i made near 400rwhp with this cam threw my 12-bolt. ran some mid 11's @119 at the track with it too (in a full weight car). the cam however, didn't work for **** with my ported heads, and i changed it out.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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i think i'm just going to go with the 230..... when i upgrade my heads i'm sure this cam will work better
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Too much intake duration difference and no enough exhaust lift to compensate for nitrous setup. IMO I wouldn't run more than a 100 shot with that cam. Reverse splits do well up to 150 shot but some conditions apply (1- short duration split difference>2-more exhaust lift, than intake lift and finally 3- preferably a higher lsa 115 or more)
TR224 112 would be a better pick.
Also JRP is M6 and you are A4, if you think he had problems with low end drivability wait till you put it in yours. Better call your nearest supertuner champion.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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Well, I have the TR 230. Mine is on a 110 LSA like jrp. I love the lope of the cam. It also makes great power. I have 3 exhaust leaks and both headers are crimped along with a slowmaster muffler and I made 375rwhp with mine. I have a set of new headers, gaskets, and going with a true dual setup. I also got rid of my K&N filter charger system and went with a whisper lid. So I am sure that it will eek out the horsepower. Cam is not a nitrous cam though. More for an N/A set-up. But it proves itself at the track so I am told. I will post my times after tonights races. Streetability is great with a tune(did not run mine without one). You can't tell you have a cam (28.1 miles last trip that I made )or until you come to a light and hear the lope(will shake the change in your console). I am sure that there are better cams out there, but until I change the heads I am staying with the TR 230.
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Well i would like a cam with some lope that would work ok with my N02.....is there any other choice besides the 224? or with anything with more exhaust (224/228?) work?

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what about a Comp 224/228 .581/.581 with 112 or 114 lsa? The 112 would be better for my application correct?
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the 114 would be better for your application of n20 and tuning.
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the 114 would be better for your application of n20 and tuning.
JRP.....would this cam be better than the 230/224 for what i want to do? and wold there still be some lope?
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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the easiest way to get the cam that meets your needs is to call someone that makes cams. i would call comp cam and tell them your mods and needs and ask them. or I hear that Texas Speed and Performance has some good cams for what you need. as well as the FMS cams. i chose what I chose b/c it fit my needs at the time and it has a mean lope. cams can be complicated so it is best to call someone who makes them and races and tunes them. well, I am off to the track. I will post the times of my small TR 230 later. good luck with your decision.
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